New H.O.S. proposal.

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  1. drvrtech77

    drvrtech77 Road Train Member

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    Based on the detailed public comments, FMCSA’s proposed rule on hours of service offers five key revisions to the existing HOS rules:

    • The Agency proposes to increase safety and flexibility for the 30 minute break rule by tying the break requirement to eight hours of driving time without an interruption for at least 30 minutes, and allowing the break to be satisfied by a driver using on duty, not driving status, rather than off duty.
    • The Agency proposes to modify the sleeper-berth exception to allow drivers to split their required 10 hours off duty into two periods: one period of at least seven consecutive hours in the sleeper berth and the other period of not less than two consecutive hours, either off duty or in the sleeper berth. Neither period would count against the driver’s 14‑hour driving window.
    • The Agency proposes to allow one off-duty break of at least 30 minutes, but not more than three hours, that would pause a truck driver’s 14-hour driving window, provided the driver takes 10 consecutive hours off-duty at the end of the work shift.
    • The Agency proposes to modify the adverse driving conditions exception by extending by two hours the maximum window during which driving is permitted.
    • The Agency proposes a change to the short-haul exception available to certain commercial drivers by lengthening the drivers’ maximum on‑duty period from 12 to 14 hours and extending the distance limit within which the driver may operate from 100 air miles to 150 air miles.

    Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration Publishes Hours of Service Proposal to Improve Safety and Increase Flexibility for Commercial Drivers
     
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  3. interpreter

    interpreter Light Load Member

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    I don’t like this at all. Essentially by adding the 3 hour provision that suspends your 14 hour clock does nothing to stem the root of the problem, shippers and receivers who have no respect for a driver’s time and constantly delay the driver. I have never understood why a receiver can’t sign a bill “subject to inspection” then release the driver. If there’s a shortage or damage, at least in the truckload world, 99.9% of the time the issue is between the shipper and receiver, provided the load was properly sealed and secured upon arrival. Why hold a driver up while a load is sorted/segregated? If there’s a problem the shipper and receiver need to work it out amongst themselves, not hold the driver hostage.
     
  4. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

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    Well the I think I like some of this... Wish they would let us split berth any way we wanted as long as both breaks were at least 2 hours or longer, ex. 5 & 5. That said I like the option to do 7 & 3 though, and the fact that neither break counts against the 14 hrs.

    Essentially the 30 min break is pretty much the same... Except you can use on duty time to satisfy it. So on the upside, stopping for fuel can go toward that 30 min break.

    Seems to me that by adding the option to stop the clock for up to 3 hours as long as the driver takes 10 consecutive off at the end of shift directly conflicts with the option to split berth 3 & 7. One rule says I can take 3 hrs off duty, then later take 7 hrs of sleeper berth to reset my clocks... While the other says I can take 3 hrs off duty, then later I'm REQUIRED to take 10 consecutive hours off duty...

    The only difference I see is that one uses sleeper, and the other is off duty. While there is a difference between sleeper and off duty, these 2 rules still seem to conflict in my mind.
     
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  5. 86scotty

    86scotty Road Train Member

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    Good points all, Cattleman.
     
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  6. jdimes

    jdimes Medium Load Member

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    Do you actually think they got drivers input to make these changes?
     
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  7. asphaltreptile311

    asphaltreptile311 Road Train Member

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    Awesome so now your going to have pencil pushers saying you only need 7 hours in the sleeper then get rolling. I don't even play the game of waking up at a different time everyday any more. You'll probably see alot more weak minded drivers running sleepy because they only got 4 hours of sleep because that 7 hour rule. Not all drivers require a full 10 hours in the sleeper and great for them you run ragged until you sleep when you die all you want. I personally don't play that game any more and I won't spend any less than 10-13 hours in the sleeper. Flatbed taught me the miracle of have a scheduled.
     
  8. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    I like the proposal for the short haul exception. For me, this should eliminate the need to fill out a log sheet when I go to one of our shippers, which is out of the 100 air mile radius. , And I should be able to stop for a nap and not worry about the 12 hour deadline.

    But, are we gonna still have to fill out a log sheet if we go over the 12 hour mark, as we do now?
     
  9. LDLWells

    LDLWells Heavy Load Member

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    You're now under 14 hours
     
  10. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

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    "Break"
    "On-duty"
    Yeah, somebody doesn't know what a break is.
     
  11. LDLWells

    LDLWells Heavy Load Member

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    I would think it's targeted more towards the drivers that are in and out of the truck all day. I'm rarely driving for more than 90 minutes without stopping to load and unload
     
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