Who fills the secondary fuel filter on CAT engines when changing filter

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  1. CountryBumkin

    CountryBumkin Bobtail Member

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    CAT does not recommend filling the secondary fuel filter when changing that filter. They want it installed dry. Reason is that they are concerned about getting dirt into the fuel system.
    However installing the filter dry can cause loss of prime and failure to start. Also on the HEUI systems, getting air into the fuel system can damage the injectors - and an empty filter introduces air into the fuel system.

    So I always fill (fill from the outside holes so any dirt that may get in is trapped by filter media).

    What do you guy do? Fill or not fill?
     
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  3. lilillill

    lilillill Sarcasm... it's not just for breakfast

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    I will either fill it from a freshly opened bottle of Howes (if I'm in a hurry), or leave it dry, crack the return line open and crank it until it starts, 30 seconds at a time with a couple minutes cool down.

    I never let any oil change place do the secondary filter.
     
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  4. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    I use those paper screen funnels they use for paint to fill mine. Or get a plastic funnel from parts store that has a screen in them.
     
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  5. CountryBumkin

    CountryBumkin Bobtail Member

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    I'm an old retired truck mechanic (not a lot of CAT experience) but never heard of leaving the secondary fuel filter dry on any engine. But maybe these newer motors with electronic fuel injectors it's now recommend installing dry to keep dirt of out fuel system.

    Is this a CAT thing - or does Detroit and Cummins now want fuel filters installed dry too?
     
  6. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    I've said my piece on a thread like this a few weeks ago and got flamed bad for it. So do what you want, its your truck.
     
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  7. swaan

    swaan Road Train Member

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    I've been filling fuel filters full clean diesel before installing for 30 years and have never had a problem doing it that way. Never.

    Having said that. Cat does recomend not too.
     
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  8. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    If you look on the Cat filters right on the side is a diagram of what you do, pour fuel in the filter, put filter on, you'll be cursing for an hour if you try to put dry filters on a Cat.
     
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  9. swaan

    swaan Road Train Member

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    They recomend spinning dry filter on the engine then priming it with the hand primer to fill the filter. Takes way to long and is a pain in the ###
     
  10. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Also gives you a nice blister on your hand.
     
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  11. starmac

    starmac Road Train Member

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    I use the howes and have never had a problem.
     
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  12. Tmtbob

    Tmtbob Medium Load Member

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    Not all of us have hand primers. I always fill mine. I have even chunked a new filter after I filled it cause I didn’t trust the fuel I used was clean. Chunk it and get another
     
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