Okay tie rod ends came out nicely everything came unthreaded nicely.
Now when I screw in the new tie rod ends as soon as it gets through the part of the tube that you can see through it bottoms out.
To be where it originally was, I need to be about another four or five threads in. And who knows where the adjustment should be because that tie rod was so shot it was just flopping around.
It feels like there are threads deeper into the tube beyond the part where the slot is.
Do I need to run a thread chaser through there? If so, does anyone know what the thread would be for that? Or where to get something that size?
The ends themselves are Meritor part number R230068 and R230069.
Tie rod cross tube thread chaser?
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Did you hit them with a wire wheel?
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Always always always apply liberal amount of anti-seize to the threads, even on the inside. You can spray some penetrant down the tube to help break up the scale. I have never come across a chaser or tap that big, but I am sure there is such a tap that size. Some new ends have to be turned in with a pipe wrench when the threads are that bad in the tube. If bad enough, work it back and forth. It should get a bit easier as it cuts through each time.
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when you assemble it, coat the tie rod ends and sleeves with anti-seize.
or what you can do is, loosen up the other end, screw that sleeve over, then put the new tie rod in....Rideandrepair Thanks this. -
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I did put anti seize on the new ends when I put them in. I put quite a bit on.
Inside the threads must have a lot of rust or crap on them. I can't fit a wire brush inside of the tube to even try to clean them. On one end of the tube it was almost blocked (behind the slot that you can see through) and when I blew it out with air it was like a cloud of crap came flying out.
Tomorrow I'll clean up the old tie rod ends and use a pipe wrench and some penetrant to see if I can clear the threads that way.
Once it is together, is it correct to put some anti-seize where the tie rod fits up through the steering knuckle?Last edited: Sep 11, 2019
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I will answer the last question first. No
At one time I worked for a major company. When trucks came in we had to do all of the regular dealer inservice stuff which included alignment. I could always loosen the bolts on those crosshafts with a standard 1/2" rachat while adjusting toe in. I do not know the torque spec on those but I would thank 85 Ft Lbs would be enough.
In the real world I run into some that have had a magic air wrench on them and are very tight. That can distort the threads inside of the tube. I kind of doubt you can just rethread it like a bolt hole. The tube is split where the clamp goes and will expand. If you snug the clamp up on the tube first it might help some.
Have had a man on a 4 ft pipe wrench on each side and used a floor jack under a pipe wrench to turn some. If it does not have to run tonight I would just by a new tube as Buddy said. His picture is automotive but is the similar. Just add about six feet.
When properly installed they are down and out. Yes down and out. If you put a pipe wrench on top of the tube, with the handle pointing to the rear, pushing it down moves the toe out.
The rust belt trucks maybe a lot different but I have turned some tubes with channel locks on old trucks.buddyd157, Rideandrepair, Diesel Dave and 1 other person Thank this. -
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Should have counted turns, doesn’t matter, getting aligned anyway. You can measure and center up ends/ wheels. Just toe out a tiny bit in front
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for the tie rod sleeve, if you were able to find a wire brush (or a set) like this...
IPA 3-3/4" Stainless Steel Bore Brush Set, 3/4", 5/16", 7/16", 9/16", 10/16", 13/32" Brush Dia. - 19RE95|8080 - Grainger!
they would come in handy any time.speedyk Thanks this.
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