K & B Transportation fraudulent company, can mess up driver's CDL, wage theft

4mer trucker · Sep 13, 2019

Dale thompson said: ↑

Bakari ??
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Sounds more like Patty lol

Bakari liked the place

Dale thompson · Sep 13, 2019

No I was wondering when the KB defenders would show up.

Oor · Sep 13, 2019

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K & B Transportation uses forced dispatch to force drivers to fake and violate DOT logs/hours of service (10-, 14-, 70-hour clocks). If a driver rejects to work past available log hours or to work while being off-duty, they threaten the driver with getting less miles, loss of weekly pay guarantee, fines. The $1250 weekly guarantee they advertise to attract new drivers is later used as a tool to force drivers to perform legal or illegal work.

K & B advertises to their clients 99% on-time delivery and quick delivery time. When those times to make pick ups and deliveries are outside of driver's available hours of service, they will force the driver to fake or violate the log. By doing so, they are able to move loads quicker, get more contracts having competitive edge over the companies whose drivers follow the DOT clock limitations.

In average, they forced me to fake or violate logs every second day. In my first 10 days with the company, 3 times I was ordered to work during my 10-hour breaks while being told to stay off-duty. I had relay drivers banging on my door to wake me up to live relay loads during my 10-hour breaks, unpaid and against DOT clock rules.

They forced me frequently to work past 14-hour clock. They would get me to the consignee close to the end of my available hours and instruct me once I run out of hours, after the consignee finishes live unloading, to move the tractor slower than 5 mph around the yard so the elog does not detect the movement and keeps me logged off-duty, then to use off-duty personal conveyance to get out of consignee's yard. Some of my work days were 18 or 19 hours long from the start to the moment when I finished, some days I had no more than hour and a half to four hours of sleep because of their forced dispatch and being forced to work while being logged off-duty.

The first time I told the dispatcher I do not want to fake the logs, he spent an hour on the phone convincing me it is for my own good to 'maximize' time and earn more money. Pre-assignment example: start the day at 22:00, pick up the load at 23:00, delivery appointment time at 14:20 hundreds of miles away. Notice that the pick up and delivery times are 14+ hours apart which violates 14-hour rule having no 10-hour break in between.

After I told the dispatcher I will not fake/violate the hours with my most recent assignment, he told me I would loose the weekly pay guarantee because I reject the load. I called the Safety Manager who did not seem to be interested in hearing about forced log irregularities.

This company cheats on the number of miles, pays drivers less miles than the actual mileage following their routes. The first route they gave me was 723 miles, Google maps shows more-less the same distance, later I was paid for only 676 miles, almost 50 miles less. Dispatcher said the distance is calculated zip code to zip code. My last load had some 5% (18) paid miles less than the actual distance. By paying drivers less miles than what the actual distance from the pick up to the delivery location is, drivers are being paid less cents-per-mile.

They are not upfront with things such as that they charge new drivers $35 for the drug screen. My first full-week paycheck had over $100 in deductions for work-related things (such as trailer wash, shipyard security escort), dispatcher told me the accounting dept. can take time to process all the receipts.

Example: I was told to go pick up a load and write a $75 company check for security escort in the shipyard. 8 days after I sent the receipt in to K & B (I Transflo-ed it together with other paperwork) $75 has been deducted from my paycheck. Paystub showed the accounting dept. processed one trailer wash receipt from the same load but skipped the receipt for security escort. After I left the truck in K & B yard, I went to the accounting dept. and told the lady over there here is the receipt I have already sent in days ago for $75 deducted from my pay, she didn't want to take a look and told me to wait. I still did not get reimbursed for it 10+ days after I Transflo-ed it.

The company has an extremely high turnover rate of new drivers. When I told a company employee about being forced to fake the logs and that I do not want to do it, he told me the things are like that and the chances are more than half of the drivers from my Orientation class will probably be gone before the end of first month.

I resigned after 2 weeks. On my last day, in the K & B yard I came across a driver from my Orientation class who said he has been overworked, not given 34-hour reset with constant lack of sleep. He said he is leaving the company and mentioned the issues resembling what I have been put through being forced to break the hour rules.

This is a real example of a K & B dispatcher's way of communication after I said I do not accept a pre-assigned load which would violate my hours: You have two options, option a) you go pick up and deliver the load like I told you, or option b) you do not deliver the load because you rejected it and you will split the fine with us the client is going to charge us (he was threatening me I would pay a $100 fine if I don't accept the pre-assignment).

This is a real example of a K & B forced dispatch I have been put through which does not give a driver more than 1 hour of continuous sleep during the span of 30 hours:
03:00 start of the work day
04:00 delivery appointment time, live unload in the consignee yard
06:00 live unload finished, I parked the truck at a nearby Pilot fuel station waiting for the next assignment, a small fuel station with no available parking spots at the time, I parked by the curb in the parking yard like a couple of other trucks did
08:00 received information from the dispatcher he would get me a load soon
14:30 dispatcher sent me a pre-assignment and told me on the phone to stay off-duty for an hour more, it would reset my hours like I was on a 10 hour break so I can start my new 14-hour clock right away, pick up the load at 17:00 in a different city and deliver the load (hundreds of miles away) tomorrow morning at 06:00.
06:00 delivery appointment time at a client where typical wait time to get live unloaded is 1.5 to 3 hours, my work day would end probably around 09:00.

This company will be loved by people who put money first over safety regulations, drivers who would sleep for 3-4 hours during fake 10-hour breaks and fake or violate logs to get more miles and money. If you do what they say, you will be good to them and earn good money for yourself and for them, if you do not comply with their requests which often violate DOT rules, they will bully you, put you down verbally, lie about you and penalize you.

To those who say that only lazy people complain about K & B when the company is so wonderful to offer plenty of work: keep living your dream, not only that this company allows drivers to fake and violate logs, they force drivers to do it. Not all drivers want to break the rules and destroy their health because of money. When a K & B dispatcher forces a driver to have a 16-hour long work day, gives a driver only 2 hours of sleep during fake 10-hour breaks, then forces a driver to follow it up with 17-hour work day, it is a hazard to public safety to put a driver in the condition like that (chronic sleep debt) on the road to drive a semi-truck.
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In your example, you had from 0800 to 1430 to snore. That's 6-1/2 hours of uninterrupted shuteye at least.

Dispatch might have woke you up twice. Happens. They don't work nights. He's trying to get you onto the next load to make you money. You want sleep instead, shut off phone.

0600 to 1530 would be 9-1/2 hours, dispatch said you'd have a ten in, something doesn't add up there, but I got to believe them because they got more experience at it than you, think your times are off.

Unless k&b had you unloading during that live unload, you should also have been catnapping beforehand while the fork lift banged on too. Pick up another couple of zzz's

Welcome to trucking.

bryan21384 · Sep 13, 2019

You pull for a reefer company. That means you will deliver on your 10 hr break with regularity. You pull for a rather large reefer company. That means sometimes your load will be repowered during your 10 hour break. If you follow every single rule to the tee, than making money is going to be tough. I think you need to get a better grasp of trucking.

icecold24k · Sep 13, 2019

bryan21384 said: ↑

You pull for a reefer company. That means you will deliver on your 10 hr break with regularity. You pull for a rather large reefer company. That means sometimes your load will be repowered during your 10 hour break. If you follow every single rule to the tee, than making money is going to be tough. I think you need to get a better grasp of trucking.
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Exactly this 100%.... My hats off to the reefer drivers. Erratic sleep schedules, constantly flipping your schedule, weird appointment times all that. You drive a reefer and this is kinda what you signed up for.

THEONEANDONLYMADDOG · Sep 13, 2019

Welcome to trucking I can think back many many years of doing this always working during off-duty time it's part of the life if you can't handle it you have no business being in it

88 Alpha · Sep 14, 2019

THEONEANDONLYMADDOG said: ↑

Welcome to trucking I can think back many many years of doing this always working during off-duty time it's part of the life if you can't handle it you have no business being in it
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You drive a new truck and it doesn't have power steering? My hat goes off to you for requesting a truck without air conditioning, also.

Many, many drivers drove without them for many, many years and it was just part of the life.

You're still in the business and your truck doesn't have those things because you can handle it. Either that or you are contradicting your stated beliefs.

x1Heavy · Sep 14, 2019

I reject the concept of being forced.

YOU did it. Broke the HOS and so on.

What you should have done is park that truck at the end of your workday 11 hours or whatever it is on logs, go to bed until the HOS says you can start a new day.

Document everything. Parituclarly if they yell at you for breaking HOS, get names. Send it all into FMCSA via anti corection laws passed since 2012.

No one forced anything on you. You did it on your own free will.

This is not a attack post. I just reject the concept that they (WHo is this they) forced you. (With what? Cattle prods? Grade school bad words and threats? Take your money? etc. pfffth.

The last time some dispatcher tried to tell me I will have that load there vs HOS I told her the truck will get there when it gets there. You have nothing on me to break the laws against HOS.

She flipped. Started yelling, I hung up on her. Documented that too.

That would be the one time I made sure a trailer load of hot freight shut down the receiver and his whole facility when its all over. (Legally mind you...) It cost the company a disgusting amount of money to smooth THOSE feathers.

And the original problem? missed paycheck on 0.00 back in '96 supposed to have been in the realm of 700+ after taxes etc. for that previous week. I hope they cashed out a million for that load. Serves em right. (They went out of business approx 3 months after I quit for cause.)

But they did not force me to do anything. WHAT I will do once in a blue moon is if a suit got down on his creaky knees and said "Please" in the nicest beseeching way possible the same way a thirsty child asks Pa for water...

Sure, you bet. Where is that load? The logs will resolve themselves when I have time after it's done.

S M D · Sep 14, 2019

This why I always see this feels on the shoulder taking a nap or their 30 min break?

Guy I knew ran into one of the trucks on the shoulder and died all cus the kb driver was taking his mandatory break

BigHossVolvo · Sep 14, 2019

bryan21384 said: ↑

You pull for a reefer company. That means you will deliver on your 10 hr break with regularity. You pull for a rather large reefer company. That means sometimes your load will be repowered during your 10 hour break. If you follow every single rule to the tee, than making money is going to be tough. I think you need to get a better grasp of trucking.
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No, he just needs to work for a better company. PERIOD

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