Dieselprice Tomorrow

Since we're talking about diesel... I saw a station advertising off-road diesel recently. What's that? Same diesel with no taxes?

Fun fact. Back in Europe not long ago guys would run heating oil to avoid fuel taxes. That was until the cops caught up and started sampling tanks- different color.

 

We did not worry about what fuel was taxed or used for what for generations.

Early in my trucking time late 80's I think they started dying fuel three colors. Blank as in no color motor fuel highway use. Then one color for farm only etc. And another for reefer trailers type of support engines but not actively rolling a motor vehicle via the engine down the highway (Public roads to be exact)

Some states made a big deal with dipping tanks to see what is in them. Big fines and all that.

We just splashed ordianry fuel into everything and handed over the reciepts minus tax for reefer. In other words everything was filled on one pump. The dyed fuel was absolutely LEFT ALONE and NOT use at ALL as a pure defensive measure. Too complicated and too #### fines if we screwed up and put in farm fuel on 300 gallon truck highway fuel tanks. The fines would put us out of business. (And closed the farm too.)

I think that was what caused the states to quit. Everyone must have bought plain fuel and quit worrying about reefer no tax or motor fuel taxed this or that etc. Just picked a normal pump and filled everything and went on with more important pressing matters of the workday.

The Military situation strictly with the refinery complex in Saud. They had 17 holes smashed into very specific targets I counted 9 storage pressure tanks have a hole in each one. All facing NW (You can pull a map and draw your own conclusions) I counted 8 more impact points, the damage path on all of them faced again NW.

Were indicated of what the Soviets called the KH55 missile Its a very fast missile used in war and we have nothing that is comparable to that in our own inventory. This goes back to Start1 of the 70s. Military use of particular weapons to do the damage.

The damage will be replaced, repaired and fixed in time. A couple of months at worse. Then prices and production will settle down again.

That is the future I see Strictly based on fuel being high for a while globally and back to normal by winter because we will have need of it. Our heating oil stocks are low going into winter across the USA. The Refineries are switching out of summer mix into winter mix for emissions purposes now or very soon. They do this twice a year.

This post is strictly about fuel, prices I expect for a while then back to normal. And includes strictly military view of the damage availible to anyone with google and able to see current images taken by satellites paid to be very precise in assessment after storms like Bahamas and Attacks against important things that affect all of us.

I refuse to talk about political anything. I refuse to talk about national anything or anything else. Ive been warned twice about this subject. And thats where it sits in that narrow scope on my end. Thats why some of the questions are not going to be answered by me. I leave that to other people.

 

Just finished reading an article saying the Saudis have restored 1/2 of the crude production that was attack. And that by the end of the month they should be back to full production.

 

Yes, off road diesel is the same fuel. Has red dye. It is fed tax free. Not sure about state tax free.

I was told home heating fuel is number 2 diesel, same as truck fuel without the additives.

 

One news article on tv yesterday had a guy saying that gas prices could be up by 25cents per gallon by the end of this month. Now that some of the production has been recaptured, don't know if prices will still jump or not, but you know how they like to jump prices up and then just keep it that way.

 

It really is all a money grab by the distributors and retailers of fuel.

The sauds have reserves to cover the disruption from the attack, the oil market didn't react as the doom and gloom has been claiming going to happen minutes after the news broke.

A lot of these facilities are not for crude processing but for domestic and regional use.

 

Of course it is, it always is.. notice it will go up .10 cents overnight because of stuff like then but then takes a week to go back down when it was a non issue after all...

I mean a few days ago they said Saudis were cut to 50% production then suddenly a day or 2 later it's back to 100% and prices never really changed much.. Then today Trump bangs the war dumbs and it's up. 13/gal near me.. was 2.72 now 2.85 overnight

 

Conspiracy theorists would assert that we are nothing but sheep being manipulated; It was long overdue; If it was not for the Middle East, sooner or later you would have seen another refinery blow up or on fire...or something like that.
I don't know...I don't know...maybe there is something real about it. Interesting though, how quick they were to raise the pump prices overnight, even though there was not any gas pump rush or any semblance of it.

 

Yes, home heating oil is number 2 diesel--same as truck fuel except with red dye added. No road tax on dyed fuel so it's cheaper to buy. The dye is added so that the coops can swat you with a big, big fine for evading road tax.

 

I always wondered about those veggie oil diesel guys...gotta love that nonsense that you can recycle something else to make perfectly capable and even cleaner fuel.. but because you didn't pay taxes on it its illegal..