A little confused

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by JamesLots87, Sep 27, 2019.

  1. TTNJ

    TTNJ Heavy Load Member

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    Most of you are not providing accurate advice here.
    First let’s make one assumption....your not for hire is truly not for hire. Take this in a literal sense....did someone hire you to move the load or is the load all your belongings you are hauling for you. If someone hired you are are running illegally. Even if the load is for sale, if it belongs to you at the time you are hauling it you are not for hire. So if you are buying and reselling cars, if they belong to you when you haul then you are truly not for hire. You can run not for hire but still be considered a commercial enterprise.
    As for weigh stations, it doesn’t matter where you are at...follow what the signs say. Some say all trucks must enter....you would enter. Some say all vehicles over 5 tons, some say commercial vehicles. Just follow exactly what the sign says.
     
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  3. FoolsErrand

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    I have had DOT colonoscopy while truly hauling my own exempt stuff. They can and do, do whatever they want no matter what the book says. The cop puts pencil to paper.. Your only eraser is money. Itll cost ya.
     
  4. TTNJ

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    Not true my friend, at least some of it.
    I’ve been through it as well and run a not DOT, not for hire, non commercial truck. See my avatar for what I drive.
    In the field they will do whatever they want, but this isn’t unique to DOT. Every law enforcement group will do this and unfortunately have the mentality to issue the ticket and then let the court figure it out.
    You have to be adamant in the field. Know your stuff and stand up for yourself. Don’t let these guys run all over you and at least you have a fighting chance.
     
  5. AModelCat

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    What I find hilarious is OP is clearly Canadian. Any advice based on US rules is not really helping them.
     
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  6. TTNJ

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    Not true....advise was to follow what the signs say to the letter. That holds true in any country
     
  7. x1Heavy

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    I would agree. Ive gone into Canadian Houses and it's obvious I aint Canadian with my rig so they just weigh it sit for a minute to consider it and get the green.

    I enjoyed the live steam in the trailer. Add water and fuel to that and you would have some weight on. There were a few living history in that type Ive ridden a time or two and the money was donations towards expenses. Some of the larger road engines hauled quite a bit at speeds that are pretty good.
     
  8. AModelCat

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    Well I encourage you to review this thread then. All signs here in Alberta state to report if over 4,500kgs. But if your company runs under an Alberta Provincial Safety Fitness Certificate, you aren't a commercial vehicle until 11,764kgs. This was how it was explained to me and assuming the info in the below thread has not changed in the last 3.5 years.

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  9. TTNJ

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    Again, follow the sign. For a scale house it does not matter if you are a commercial vehicle or not, they don’t care. They care that you followed the sign.
     
  10. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    You are not providing accurate advice. "Not for hire" is irrelevant and the OP is not exempt. The OP is:
    • Operating without proper driver's licence
    • Operating without proper vehicle registration
    • Most likely operating without proper insurance (reasonable assumption based on lack of proper registration)
    • Operating in violation of Log Book/Hours of Service regulations
    CVOR: Commercial vehicle operator's registration

    IF the OP were truly driving a private, non-commercial vehicle, he would not be required to enter weigh scales in Canada, so... it does matter.
     
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  11. TTNJ

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    I completely agree that “not for hire” is irrelevant to what the OP question is. BUT, others added to the comment so I contributed as well as some of that advice was not accurate. I don’t know Canadian commercial drivers license so I can’t comment, but I do know US laws and specifcally Ohio.
    Again though, to the OP question on scales, follow the signs and do exactly as they say, regardless of what country or state you are in.
    If the sign says all commercial vehicle must enter and you are a non commercial vehicle then don’t enter......if it says all trucks must enter and you are a truck then enter....
    I would bet in canada the signs differ from province to province. They differ from state to state in the US.
     
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