While I agree completely with what you say concerning Sergi this thread is NOT the thread to complain about him.
It is a thread about specing a RGN trailer to haul locally and legally his own equipment in a timely manner. You should understand this considering you are doing the same thing.
Need To Purchase RGN Trailer
Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by GOV'T_Trucker, Oct 29, 2019.
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I started one to stay up with his misadventures....
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That is why this thread is about SPEC'ING an RGN trailer not what company to go with. While it is nice to know some of the better companies to check out what they have to offer we cant control who puts in the lowest bids
We can control what is in the specs. So we have to create a list of things that we require in our specs and the companies have to provide that. So you disqualify companies by spec'ing items they can't provide. For example, just say we want a gold plate trailer with blue polka dots on it and only one company will provide that, then the other companies can't bid.
We have to account for our purchases, tax payers wouldn't be to happy with we took the highest bidder on a trailer that was also spec'd the same as the lowest bidder. They don't care about who makes items, they care about saving the most money and that decision is through cooncil.
Hopefully this sheds light on what I am asking for. Not asking about who makes them, but what specs I would need to best suit our needs. Again knowing the best trailer manufactures give me a chance to check out the websites and different options they offer. Heck JJ is local to where I work, so this would give us the opportunity to go in person and check some of the units they have in stock. I'm not sure if the City takes locally manufactured products into consideration as well with the bids or not as I'm not part of our procurement department nor and I that high up in management that I work with them. I'm doing this research on behalf of upper management, the steer them in the right direction when it comes to specs. Hence why I am reaching out to the experienced operators on this site, that have been doing this for years and years. I see there are very knowledgeable people on this site, unfortunately too many people on here also think if you've never done this or you like Sergei Dratchev then you shouldn't get involved in this type of hauling. While I agree, if you are hauling bigger loads you should work up to that level (and again we have 2 guys including myself that have done oversized) our load for the most part is legal. Minus approx 6" or so on either side of a 8ft6' trailer width. I don't really consider that a complicated oversize load I've hauled up to 15ft wide and 80ft long, that I consider a more complicated load. What I haven't done was haul or use an RGN, I've been around them watching operators operate them and asking questions over the years and I've watched videos on YouTube but that doesn't make me an expert on them. -
Yeah, the thread did get a bit off topic, but kudos to you for seeking advice.
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I don't give a crap about rates, we are a carrier hauling our own stuff. So shipping rates don't apply to us, only what we internally charge to other departments within our company. So our "rate" decisions don't affect private carriers.
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This is pretty much the standard trailer around me......
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Theres a way to rule out lower quality manufacturers. Work certain requirements into the bid. Things the higher quality companies do will be standard. Lower ones will have have to add it, which will increase their prices.
You also still need to be aware of market rates, it's how you will justify the purchase price, on going maintenance, training employees, adding insurance, and proper truck versus using contractorsOxbow Thanks this. -
So those are not safety things. Just because your permit is not correct for your load doesn't make you unsafe, your load unsafe or your driving skills handling the load unsafe. Permits seem more of a money grab then they are for anything else. Cause remember just because the state/province has you going a certain way on the permit you are still reasonable for you load. So if you hit a low bridge, even if the state route you that way your still on the hook. So how does a permit help you be safe?
You want to talk about illegal and unsafe? Please point our specific things that he has done that were unsafe. And please don't say things like he went off route or whatever. Cause it could happen to anyone and going off route could be unsafe if you don't pay attention to bridge weights and heights etc... I have seen a few of the "heavy" haulers say they have overloaded trailers, not tied down correctly etc.. That is unsafe and knowing what you did was not correct. I don't see him overloading his trailer, I don't see him skimping out on chains.
Also please don't put words into my mouth. I don't advocate for people being unsafe, so if I have missed something that Sergei has don't unsafe like not changing his load to meet requirements, overloading his trailer and loading over his GROSS WEIGHT please point it out so I can see.. But please, if you think that going over your permit weight is unsafe, then I don't know what to think. I am not saying it's right and I wouldn't advise people to do that. But you try to say going over your permit weight is unsafe is just ridiculous, your truck can handle the weight, your trailer can handle the weight, your truck is registered for the correct weight, your chains are sufficient for the load, you have enough tie downs and in the correct sports, your tires are in good shape, you load is marked with the correctly flagging, your lighting is correct for the state/province your in. Those are some of the important things that could be the different between being SAFE and UNSAFE not a number or direction on the permit.
I've said my piece. I also said we are a gov't agency and we will have training of the trailer and loading/tie down. We will have our blanket permit for Ontario as we would only be operating within a 100km radius.
I also want to express, that anything I say is my own personal opinions. My opinions and statements do not represent my employers opinions or beliefs.Landincoldfire and beastr123 Thank this.
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