Should I be on duty or off duty

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Mohtrucker, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. starmac

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    Spring or rubber pad suspension
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    no aic, no power steering, bias ply tube type tires, low torque engines, cab overs, or very short conventionals, air wipers, somewhat marginal heaters and defrosters, 36 inch sleepers with an opening you could not push a lot of drivers through with a d6 dozer. lol
    It is what it was and there was no better, so it was not like we missed anything, but to go back now after driving full size apartments down the road that you don't even feel the bumps in, well I don't want any part of it, put it that way.
     
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  3. Mike Hardin

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    By that logic if you log off duty while waiting for breakdown to show up you're off duty. In either case I'm free to eat my lunch, take a walk, or climb in the sleeper and get a nap. The idea that I'm "not relieved" because someone might show up in the next two hours, while I'm eating or sleeping, is just silly.

    I actually had an instructor teaching hos in CDL school tell students they had to be logged on duty their whole 14 hour shift because they weren't relieved of duty during lunch. They were still responsible for the equipment and freight. He didn't bother to explain how they got around the 8 hour rule without being off duty for 30 minutes, or how they were relieved of duty when they spent 10 hours in the sleeper, but not when they spent 30 minutes in Subway.
     
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  4. Chinatown

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    That instructor is full of it.
     
  5. starmac

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    I would think, unless it takes a full 8 hours and you are on eld, might as well be on duty, it will count that anyway. I run paper, and would do it different, depending.
     
  6. Mike Hardin

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  7. Mike Hardin

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    I work for a mega (Werner) and have never had anyone call me and tell me to get off duty. But I'm pretty aggressive about clock management without that. Why would I want to waste any of my 70 doing something that wasn't generating income?

    Before eld I logged 15 minutes for PTI, 10 for drop and hook, loading or unloading, 5 for fuel. Werner would violate me for anything less. But now with eld and having to use yard move on line 4 every time I move the truck, my line 4 time is way up.
     
  8. starmac

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    I have a question.
    The company truck that I am going to drive short term will have to go on eld the 16th of next month, if what I am hearing is true.
    I keep it in the shop, but will sometimes move it out on my days off, will this trigger the eld and make it driving or anything other than just parked.
    I have not made my mind up if I will drive it at all, once the eld law kicks in, or may just drive it 8 days a month to get around it.
     
  9. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    Sign out of the eld and assign the moves to a mechanic.
     
  10. ZVar

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    Except HOS specifically states waiting on a break down is on duty.
     
  11. starmac

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    Unless he dot shows up while you are broke down, who is going to know?
     
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