They must ban "cpm" and "piecerate" pay

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Northeasterner, Jan 7, 2020.

  1. Mototom

    Mototom Road Train Member

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    Crony capitalism is kind of a catch all and does throw out a Marxist flavor I’ll admit.
    I hate corporate welfare in all forms. A totally unregulated market would be chaos, but so is an over regulated one. There’s a middle ground but I don’t think we have found it just yet.
    Some government regulations ARE needed, others are poison disguised as a cure and some are just blatant pandering to corporations and lobbyists
     
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  3. snowlauncher

    snowlauncher Road Train Member

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    The cure for cancer is not more cancer! Government over regulating the industry is a huge part of the problem!!!
    The freight industry is always a competitive market, so should be the jobs market for drivers to move the freight. There are good paying trucking jobs out there, even if they are cpm, or by the load. Drivers that are willing to work for peanuts are a big reason many trucking companies won't pay better rates. It's simple, really. If the majority of drivers refused to work for wages below a certain rate, then the majority of trucking companies would have empty trucks. Thus, forcing the wages up to hire and keep drivers. A schooled and trained chef would probably not work at a fast food burger chain for minimum wages, so why do trained drivers work at the fast food equivalent of trucking companies?
    Many large chain fast food restaurants are now offering above minimum wage starting positions. Why? They were not enticing the labor force enough to fill their staffing needs. This needs to be the case for the trucking industry as well. Drivers need to give themselves more credit and not settle for paltry wages.
     
  4. x1Heavy

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    There is no point in protesting. Drivers quit for some reasons, but low income or no pay is number one. Ive quit for that so often. Out of the 24 or so employers, 18 of them were quits when they quit paying properly or adequately.

    Even FFE with us after 6000+ miles twice presented us with 0.00 paychecks summer of 2001 in June. Twice. Claiming paperwork snafu. That's about 9000 dollars unpaid before taxes. We had to get the journal out and go after the DM in Lancaster to make it happen. The second time they did that we hired on to haul medicines the following monday morning and were rolling out of Little Rock by 10 am once all the papers were signed. Either pay us or not. We will decide if we stay or not. Just pay us on time properly and you (Company) has no problem.
     
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  5. JoeTruck

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    Trucking is a great job for someone who likes being alone and only has a high school degree.
    They will always pay first year drivers as low as possible. If you improve your skills you will improve your income. It's up to you.
    Where else can an illegal who made ten bucks a day make a thousand a week.
    America is a great country.
     
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  6. x1Heavy

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    And that is part of the corrosion of our laws.

    100 years ago the definition of "Illegal Alien" got so and so exported soonest. As in thrown out of the USA.

    Thanks to a bleeding heart section of our parties even a illegal today gets everything. I was in DHS the other day where a illegal with his GF who was not yet full term but towing 4 kids who were a handful were in a position to receive benefits cash for food and both received a decent income exceeding minimum wage 40 hours a week at 10 per hour. There is no need for them to go out and work. Just stay home and drink while chasing dirty diapers and add more kids (More benefits) to the card.

    DHS has been good to me eliminating medical insurance premiums totaling about 150 a month and eliminating about 250 in drug costs per month (Cash prices) Which would have otherwise hollowed out my income leaving me with no food and one electric bill.

    In other words for me America is getting way too expensive. And for anyone who gets inside the wall onto our Land without getting thrown out manages to get all the things ordinary citizens get. At our expense.

    I understand the situation on the west coast is even more extreme. Where 1.4 billion in public city money burnt into 46 apartments for homeless. Where 150,000 live in LA alone.
     
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  7. Northeasterner

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    It's shocking how West Coast governments will block the construction of affordable apartments because of NIMBY single-family home owners, then turn around and waste billions to house a couple dozen homeless people.

    the market proposes an efficient solution, they reject it because of "reasons", then waste 5 times as much from those same taxpayers.
     
  8. bryan21384

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    It doesn't matter which industry you work in, they all pay low according to living standards. For me, trucking pay is acceptable but that is only because i had to make so many adjustments. I live very modestly at home and on the road
     
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    There's no such thing as affordable housing on the west coast.
     
  10. Northeasterner

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    Yeah they always pay rookies a rookie wage but even at McDonald's here where I live pay starts at ten or eleven bucks an hour.

    My issue is that these trucking companies are exempt from having to pay hourly, they just paid by the mile so drivers sit in traffic or at warehouses for hours and hours and end up getting paid nothing for all that work.

    Now that I'm hourly it's amazing how fast I am in and out of shippers and receivers. But government gives trucking companies big exemption from wage law so they have no incentive to push shippers and receivers to respect my time and therefore company time.

    Let's make America even better, by removing the loophole for these trucking companies. If McD and Amazon can pay hourly, so can Swift lol.
     
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    I see the numbers and they don't add up.
     
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