Will Califonias new AB5 law

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  1. mover man

    mover man Road Train Member

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    Heyyyyyy. I resemble 4 out of 5. I've never felt so recognized. :)
     
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  3. Northeasterner

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    The drug test reqs alone would keep wages at least slightly above minimum. Throw in hazmat reqs, health reqs, the fact insurance can refuse to insure risky drivers, the fact a lotta folks won't stick around once they see how it is, and then companies gotta pay more than minimum just to get drivers off the bat, at least for any useful length of time.

    That would make it no longer a middle class job for sure, but that might not be so bad. I'd hate having to retrain BUT... going down your line of thinking. You couldn't really keep drivers out if they can only work 40 hours... so everything would become low-wage LTL and/or move to rails... the days of the OTR driver would mostly be gone, so everyone gets home every night... yeah pay might be a solid $800 a week and no more, but you're getting home every day after 8 hours. Truck stops would shutter, but that'd mean a lotta unhappy folks are pushed off the road and into a healthier lifestyle.

    It's not a *great* scenario, but reducing the workweek to 40 hours might end up with everything being more like LTL, which seems a LOT healthier than living out for weeks on end on the road in my experience so far... pay would be significantly lower, but then again long waits at shippers w/ sketchy "starts after 2 hours and you gotta fight for it" detention policies mean you're not getting paid for your time anyway...
     
  4. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Everything can never be and will never be all ltl. Flatbed and tanker freight in particular, will continue to be full truckload going long distances. The railroads will never be able to handle enough of the truckload van/reefer freight to make a big difference either, especially if it is time sensitive freight. I don't see a 40 hr week in the future for most truck drivers. And $800 a week, especially for anyone living in a metro area would not be enough for most people with families to make it.
     
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  5. Sharky88

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    A federal judge placed an injunction on it regarding truck drivers and a local judge in California ruled it interferes with federal law. So at this point AB5 dose not apply to trucking.
     
  6. Northeasterner

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    then it's probably settled. I feel bad for California, as much as I hate their big govt' policy, I can see why they want to rein in the fleece operator scam.
     
  7. Bo Hunt

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    Just came back as an IC again. Schneider no longer hires from California.
     
  8. plynnjr92

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    They shut down their Fontana terminal entirely, now it's one of like 5 Swift terminals down there. Schneider moved their southwest base to Phoenix. Now the Portland OC is the only one in the Pacific time zone.
     
  9. mover man

    mover man Road Train Member

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    Why did they do that? They still have trucks both company and IC going and coming to and thru CA. Closing it because of AB5 doesnt make sense.
    Unless they were calling mechanics and others that worked there contractors?
    If that's was the case, like it or hate it AB5 is doing what it was intended to do.
     
  10. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    It had nothing to do with ab5, rather it was the entirety of California state law. By not having a physical presence sni can force almost all lawsuits to federal court.
     
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  11. mover man

    mover man Road Train Member

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    I made my comment based on the topic heading of this post.
    Well I'm not a lawyer nor care one any or the other. I doubt if closing down operation in Calif, would force ongoing, existing,. Or even law suits based on when they did have a presence in the state, to federal court.
     
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