“Bring paperwork inside” at scalehouse

Discussion in 'Hazmat Trucking Forum' started by 4wayflashers, Sep 6, 2021.

  1. 4wayflashers

    4wayflashers Medium Load Member

    Mar 14, 2014
    I had an instructor tell us to leave BOL on drivers seat when told to bring paperwork inside the scalehouse when you are pulling a placarded load. Not sure if this is considered messing with Sasquatch. I’m sure he is technically correct but was wondering if its common practice.
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  3. TheIncredibleBulk

    TheIncredibleBulk Bobtail Member

    Nov 6, 2020
    I've never heard this. I basically have two copies when I leave a shipper. One goes in my trucks permit/hazmat binder with the BOL physically inserted in the ERG at the correct ID#. This binder stays in my drivers side door.
    The other BOL is my copy and it stays with my paperwork, TRANSFLO, etc....
    If I have a third copy or have time to make one, I place it in the trailers doc holder.
    If I get called in, I bring the binder in my drivers door with me.

    BTW, unless you already have it, here's a good link to always have on your phone.
    ERG2020 (English) | PHMSA
  4. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

    Jun 1, 2010
    The regulations state that :
    • If the driver leaves the truck the paperwork must be on the driver's seat or in the driver's door pouch.
    • When inspected the driver must great the inspecting officer with the paperwork in hand.
    The reason your instructor is telling you to leave one copy on the seat and take the other inside is because there are some DOT officers that are looking for a reason to start writing violations. We had a driver get told to pull around back for an inspection. The driver parked, grabbed his paperwork and started walking into the scale house. He was met halfway by the inspecting officer, who took the BOL, then walked to the truck and asked the driver to open the drivers door. No paperwork was in the truck, so the officer cited the driver.

    We also had a driver climb out of the truck and stand by the truck waiting for the officer to come out. The driver was cited for not greeting the inspecting officer with 'paperwork in hand', despite the paperwork was sitting on the driver's seat 3 feet away.

    Most officers won't pull this mickey mouse crud, but you never know which officer is going to nail you to the wall just because he can.
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  5. CowboyTim

    CowboyTim Medium Load Member

    Nov 2, 2018
    At which scale house(s) did those two incidents occur?
  6. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

    Jun 1, 2010
    I don't remember, they were stories told to me our former VP of Safety and Training. Both incidents were within a few months of each other and prompted a change in our training curriculum.
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  7. slim shady

    slim shady Road Train Member

    Sep 14, 2011
    Chicago, Il.
    Ok guys. Hazmat load and you leave the paperwork on the drivers seat, now I'm going into ? Whatever, truck stop or restaurant or hotel whatever it might be.
    Paperwork is on drivers seat but I lock my doors. What matter does it make? The Bols are there but my doors are locked.
    Been tanking for almost 10 yrs
    I've never had a problem
    BUT,What's the law on this
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  8. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

    Jun 1, 2010
    You park the truck and then go spleunking in the local fauna. Someone notices your tank is leaking a mysterious goo and calls 911. Barney Fife arrives and busts your window to figure out exactly what you've got in the tank. If the paperwork is on the seat, Barney can grab the BOL and then D.U.C.K. If the paperwork isn't readily apparent, Barney will start tearing the cab apart, intermixing every piece of paper so by the time Sherriff Andy gets on site it's a royal mess. As they're trying to figure things out, the goo eats thru the pavement and opens a portal to Hell that releases Lamb Chop's Sing A Long onto the world.

    In addition to all of the hazmat cleanup you are now responsible for unleashing an unholy enitity on the world. Your wife will divorce you, your dog will bite you, and the pull tab will break off every can of soda you try to open.

    At least that's the theory.
  9. Roberts450

    Roberts450 Road Train Member

    Feb 6, 2016
    @gentleroger you’re to easy on the guy. It should have been beer can not soda can. Otherwise that’s pretty much spot on what will happen.
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  10. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

    Jun 1, 2010
    I'm having a fight with beer in cans right now. If it takes more than 60 seconds to figure out if your beer is an ale, a lager, an IPA, a stout, or a porter your can design sucks. If I can't figure out that you've infused the beer with passion fruit until I take the first sip then I will have a reaction similar to a 6 year old being forced to listen to fusion jazz. If I wanted a cosmopolitan, I'd make myself a cosmopolitatin. I wanted a freakin beer. And who in the hell makes a stout infused with fruit flavors?
  11. FFL Trucker

    FFL Trucker Light Load Member

    Jul 13, 2011
    Any hazmat load that BOL has to be left in the truck, always. If hauling waste, there's an entire manifest of paperwork left in the truck and only the washbay lead may remove it.
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