1-Ton weights?

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  1. cmbks21

    cmbks21 Medium Load Member

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    These numbers confuse me, what is the max capacity I can haul, I got a 35+5 trailer that weighs 10850 I think and rated for 24900, ill go out and get exact numbers here shortly. I believe the Truck is rated for 13xxx.???????????
     
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  3. cmbks21

    cmbks21 Medium Load Member

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    Here they are, Gonna have to go weigh it. But, how do I figure it.
     

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  4. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    The 13,025 lb GVW is the max weight the truck alone can weigh when fully loaded. The 23,900 lb trailer GVW is the max weight of the trailer when fully loaded. You also cannot exceed the maximum axle weights listed, which I'm assuming since the trailer has two 10k lb axles that 3,900 lbs of that is intended to be transfered to the truck through the hitch. I'm sure someone with a little more experience than myself will chime in and clarify this further if I'm wrong.
     
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    cmbks21 Medium Load Member

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    Thanks. I knew all that except the 3900 part bein transfered to truck, so I just need to go weigh the rig and subtract the weight from the total weight it could be?
     
  6. flatbedcarrier

    flatbedcarrier Medium Load Member

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    Add up your axle ratings and never exceed them. Also look at your tire ratings to make sure you don't exceed them

    Put the truck and trailer on a certified scale empty and deduct that weight from the combined axle ratings. That'll be the max weight you can legally haul.

    And make sure your IRP registration is comparable to the combined axle weight ratings. If it's registered for less weight than your combined axle ratings ad up to? You'll have to reduce your max load weight to account for the difference.

    And if you want your equipment to last, haul less load weight than what the combined axle ratings ad up to. That's what we do.
     
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    stammingerr Bobtail Member

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    You're truck and trailer are probably around 20,000 combined. Without exceeding your max ratings, you'll be able to pull around 17,000. So 37,000 should be the total GVW. I know in Missouri the licensing jumps from 36,000 GVW to 42,000 GVW. I don't know if every states licensing is the same but if so I would go with 36,000 GVW. We put ours at 42,000 GVW. Solely because are trucks are 14,000 GVW and our trailers are rated at 25,900 GVW.
     
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  9. FarmerTransportation

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    I'm in the midst of a GVWR/GCWR nightmare even as we speak. So I'll give you what I've learned on this from a Pennsylvania perspective. Not sure if it's the same in all states - probably not.

    The GVWR (as said above) is the max your vehicle is allowed to weigh fully loaded with fuel, cargo, passengers, etc.

    The GAWR is the most weight you can put on the axle. The GAWR's are normally more when added together than the GVWR, but the GVWR rules.

    Same applies to the trailer, usually. Mine has two 7K axles, with a GVWR of 14,000. Yours is different, and the surmise above is probably correct. You should double-check with Big Tex, cause I'd bet that some DOT weenie will argue about the GVWR being higher than the axle ratings.

    GCWR (gross combined weight rating) is the maximum that your truck/trailer combo is allowed to weigh loaded with fuel, payload, driver etc. with the caveat that when you scale the combo none of the axles are over their rated weights. GCWR is a number that is specified by the manufacturer, not created by adding up GVWR's or guessing what you might want to have as a maximum. The manufacturer arrives at a GCWR by considering the frame capability, the engine/transmission, the differential ratio, the brake system capacity and so on.

    I'm battling with the illustrious Commonwealth of Pennsylvania right now because they don't think that my truck should only have a GCWR of 26,000 lbs, even though this is the statistic published by Ford. They think it should be more - probably because the 2015 version of my truck is over 40K GCWR. Until I can get my combined registration fixed I can't haul my trailer.

    A 2014 GMC 3500HD crew cab diesel should have pretty decent max trailer weight - especially if you have duallys. You need first to find the GCWR published by GM for your truck. Then get the actual weight of your truck with full fuel tank(s), passengers and any stuff you normally carry. Subtract the actual weight from your GVWR to find the truck's payload capacity. Subtract the actual weight from the GCWR to find out how much your loaded trailer can weigh. (compare that weight with the published specs for towing capacity for your truck)

    In my example, my truck GVWR is 15000. My GCWR is 26000. My truck scales all up at 9900. So my payload on the truck is 5100, or the trailer loaded can weigh up to 16100. My towing capacity spec is 17400 so I'm good there.

    Clear as mud? Whew. What was the original question?
     
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  10. cmbks21

    cmbks21 Medium Load Member

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    Thanks, ours is pretty close to,what y'all are all saying
    Appreciate it
     
  11. cmbks21

    cmbks21 Medium Load Member

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    Gcwr-30500#
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    So, now I have to get the truck registered for 30500, or whatever is just higher than that?

    Then since the truck and trailer gvwr is over 26001, I have to register with the irp, and get ifta?


    I am a driver , not a secretary..... This is the biggest headache ever trying to figure this out.

    Fyi, this is my uncles business, he told me to come on down, "I have tons of work for the truck".
    He left for work and won't be back for a couple months. His last words. " its all on you to get this going".

    I don't remember signing on for this. I was under the impression that everything was ready!!!!!!!
     
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