10 hour breaks

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by illegal_eagle187, Jun 2, 2008.

  1. illegal_eagle187

    illegal_eagle187 Light Load Member

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    I am a security officer and I deal with truck drivers on a daily basis and have a question I would like answered.... Let's say a driver gets loaded or unloaded at this plant and its 9 pm and he is out of hours for his day and wants to shutdown on property.... Our company policy says that no driver is to sleep on property unless loading or unloading in the morning...I'm not sure as to what I can do seeing as I'm getting on a federal law level? I've ran into that problem a few times and have done nothing but I'm starting to think they could just be saying that just so they can seeing as I have no power to check their logbooks and whatnot? Is there anything I can do to quit having this issue? Thanks
     
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  3. smurf-316

    smurf-316 Resident Nut Case

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    Well as an ex-police officer and truck driver and Security officer i can say you can give them 2 choices.

    1. They can show you their logbook to PROVE they are out of hours for the day.

    2. They refuse to show you their logbook and you ask them to leave the property.

    No matter how much some people will down grade your job, you as the Security Officer ARE in control of that property whether they like it or not. If they are really out of hours then they should have no problem showing their logbook to you.
    I have shown mine to Security many times. the thing to remember is they must comply with your request while they are on your property. they must respect your job as you respect theirs. If you ask them to leave then they must leave. if they refuse then you call the police and they will make them leave.
    If he is telling you the truth then by all means you should indeed let him stay his 10 hours so he doesn't get a ticket for being out of hours. some times us truckers have a hard time finding a place to park for the night.
     
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  4. LogsRus

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    I wouldn't think the drivers would be saying they need a 10 hour break unless they do. Most don't want to be stuck there all night anyhow since there is no food etc. Now I am not sure why a few might want to but you could ask them to see their log book (do you know how to read it and what to look for though?).

    If the company choses not to allow drivers to rest there, it's the companies choice. It does make it harder on the driver if the customers won't allow them to rest there :(.
     
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  5. illegal_eagle187

    illegal_eagle187 Light Load Member

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    yeah i can read logbooks a little bit.......i understand the parking issue drivers come across out on the road, but if it was up to me i would let them park there if they were out of hours or were sleepy but its not my call, but thanks for your answers
     
  6. LogsRus

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    Yeah I understand your situation. They should stop and think it is not you making the rules, its your job to follow them :biggrin_25520:
     
  7. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    You are definitely right on the money Smurf. I'd give you a 1000 points, if I could.:biggrin_2559:
     
  8. kalbert

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    This is so odd to me!!! I am a shipper and really dont see the harm in letting a trucking sleep if he wants so long as the truck isnt blocking traffic.
     
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  9. LogsRus

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    That's probably half the battle or possibly they close at a certain time and don't want to leave strangers on the lot, but they will trust them with that freight. It's insured though! l.o.l.

    But yeap if they have room they should allow you to stay:biggrin_25525:
     
  10. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    I agree but there's no obligation on the property owner to have drivers take their break and there might be insurance issues too. It's a really nice thing to do but in no way should a security officer put his job in jeopardy.
     
  11. illegal_eagle187

    illegal_eagle187 Light Load Member

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    yeah i think some of the reasons we have that policy is that for parking we really do not have alot of room for even the trucks that come in to load/unload in the morning so when you tie in trucks that want to sleep we have a safety issue with trucks just being scattered different parts through out the plant, and possibly a security and safety issue with drivers that park somewhere we cant visibly see them and could be wandering off doing who knows what or could be goin into areas they shouldnt be and a preventable accident happens.......but yeah ive tried bringing up the issue of expanding parking, but thats about as far as it went
     
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