16 hr Rule

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  1. Grouch

    Grouch Road Train Member

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    Today I had to wait at my turn point for 4 hours and I was prepared to use the 16 hr rule, but I made it with 40 mins to spare. But a question, as I watched the 14 hours on the ELD go down, I watched my driving hours go down, matching the decline of the14 hrs. I was always under the impression that even though a driver used the 16 hr. rule, he still has the 11 hrs of drive time. But according to what I saw my driving hours were to decline right along with the 14. Although, when I left the turning point and headed home, I had 6 1/2 to drive, but only 5 left in my 14. When I started up the road, I noticed the drive time left dropped to 5, right along with hours left in my 14. Hope I made myself clear.

    So, have I been under the wrong impression over the years? Or could it be that either the ELD that we use does not recognize the 16 hr. rule or the company. I do not think that it is the company. When I got in, I had 40 mins on the 14 and 40 min on driving time left.
     
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  3. southtruck

    southtruck Light Load Member

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    I use a 60 clock. If I am approaching my 14 but have only driven 10 when I certify my exception I will have 1 hour of drive time on my 16.

    So yes, the 14 to 16 is flexible in adverse conditions, the 11 is not. However, if you haven't used your eleven in your 14 it will be added to your 16.

    Clear as mud?
     
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  4. Suspect Zero

    Suspect Zero Road Train Member

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    You are not wrong, it is just how your ELD is set to show it. When we used Qualcomm it always showed the real drive time left even if that was more than your shift time left. Now that we are using Samstupid if shows the way it did for you and won't show the actual drive time until I activate my 16.
     
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  5. zodiacflyer

    zodiacflyer Medium Load Member

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    Most ELDs I have used only display the clock that will run out first once you start moving. That's why when you first start your day, it only shows 8 hours, because at that point, you will need a 30 minute break before anything else. If sit at a shipper for 4 hours, and only have 5 hours on your 14, but 6 on your 11, the first clock to expire (the 14 hour clock) will display by default, once you start driving again. There are a couple that will show all the clocks while you are driving, but they are the exception.
     
  6. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

    Mine does that too. But when I invoke the 16-hour exception the drive clock changes to reflect my actual driving hours remaining.
     
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    aussiejosh Road Train Member

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    Yes I used to use the "KISS" principle keep it simple silly, you had 14 hours in which to drive 11 hours, which allows you about 3 hours of rest, refueling, and what ever else one wishes to get up to in those three hours. Yes there was that rule for adverse conditions but I never fully understood it, my thought was if you'd already done 11 hours driving but could not find a place to safely stop you could keep driving, for another 2 hours? Although to do that, I'd imagine one would have to be caught up in a snow storm, tornado, hurricane, or tsunami. :cool:
     
  8. Grouch

    Grouch Road Train Member

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    Funny, we use the "Samstupid" also. I hate it. Now, how does a driver "activate" the 16?
     
  9. Grouch

    Grouch Road Train Member

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    I am here to learn, so tell me how to "invoke the 16 hour exception"?
     
  10. ZVar

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    Hos -> Logs -> scroll all the way down and there is a 16 hour short haul button.
     
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  11. Suspect Zero

    Suspect Zero Road Train Member

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    Tap the "Log" button just below where your 4 clocks appear and scroll down, there will be 16 Hour Short Haul listed, tap on that and you can activate it.
     
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