18 months with the same company, and they just gave me an excessive line 2 warning.

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  1. DavidInPuyallup

    DavidInPuyallup Bobtail Member

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    When it comes to the ELD I've been doing my logs the same way since I've had my CDL the last 2+ yrs.

    At this company when I'm on the road and stop for a 10, its 10 hours on sleeper. If I do a split, obviously that's a different situation.
    Typically I'm home for a 34 (but usually get more), and when I park bobtail in my driveway I switch to off duty. The thing is, I know there have been PLENTY of times when I've just hit sleeper instead. Obviously that's incorrect, but I've never been called out on it.

    So here's what happened:

    I was sent to a terminal because my assigned truck needing something done. Upon arrival I went on sleeper berth. When it was time for mechanic to look at truck, I disconnected the Tablet/ELD so he wouldn't change my status.
    I slept in the truck both nights, and was in it nearly the entire 34. My status was sleeper berth.

    Today I get a warning from safety about "excessive line 2" (must be referencing the paper logs days) and they said I can't be on sleeper more than 24hrs. They stated every time I exit the truck for a bathroom, shower, go outside to speak with another driver, every time I'm "off the truck" regardless of how long it means put it off duty. They also said that applies to 10s too. So if I'm at a truck stop/rest area and exit to relieve myself, I have to switch to off duty for 5 minutes then back to sleeper.
    This just seems absolutely silly. Does anyone actually do this?
    I also find it amusing after 18 months my 10s have never been questioned, other 34s haven't been questioned, but this 34 on sleeper at the terminal sent up a red flag. Ha

    Safety claims this is a DOT violation. I found a thread about paper logs here from 2016. Now in 2025 does commercial enforcement even care?
    Do you have a 34hr sleeper log filled with off duty-sleeper-off duty-sleeper over and over again?
     
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  3. dosgatos

    dosgatos Medium Load Member

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    Yes if I take a 34 over the weekend at a truckstop. If I'm home I park in a private lot and put off duty 34 hr reset and get off the truck and go home.
     
  4. Kyle G.

    Kyle G. Road Train Member

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    The way you are describing it is exactly how I always did it when I was OTR, and probably how most people do it. In fact, my eld device would shut off after the truck being off for so long. Like I'm going to power it back on just to switch from sleeper to off duty so I can run in and take a leak? LOL, screw that.

    I can't imagine switching between off duty and sleeper every time you enter/exit the truck. I mean technically they have a point but what a weird thing to nitpick about.

    I also can't imagine any DOT inspector making a big deal about it, but I'm sure there's a rookie officer somewhere who would, just to be a jerk.

    However, any time you leave the truck for a reset, home time, etc., then definitely go off duty.
     
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  5. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    Find a better company, they’re try to find a way to downsize
     
  6. DavidInPuyallup

    DavidInPuyallup Bobtail Member

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    That's definitely not it at all. They are hiring for dedicated accounts. Infact, we are short on driver's for my dedicated account so the customer has been giving some loads to swift

    I was just curious if this is how everyone does their logs and I somehow missed something in training about property doing logs as a trucker or if the safety team/company policy was being a bit absurd.

    One argument made was if I'm in sleeper birth, if the truck catches on fire when I'm showering the company will think I'm still in the truck and first responders will think so too. When realistically, I'm sure they'd initially look for the driver anyway.

    My new coworker who came from Schneider says Schneider doesn't do it, but in theory if someone were to hit n run your truck while you're on sleeper someone might say "why didn't you get their info or see what happened? You logged yourself in sleeper birth"
     
  7. DavidInPuyallup

    DavidInPuyallup Bobtail Member

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    So your log looks like off duty, sleeper, off duty, sleeper, off duty, sleeper etc and then on duty once 34hrs is up? Unless you're home and out of the truck the entire time, obviously.

    Well that's good to know, and that it doesn't mess up your reset.
     
  8. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    Just make them happy, don’t log sleeper, all off duty
    Ask them for a card… (I wonder if they still give them) releasing you from all obligations and responsibilities of their truck and trailer while off duty, incase if someone hits it, you’re released from any responsibility.
     
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  9. dosgatos

    dosgatos Medium Load Member

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    You skipped an off duty before I went on duty (morning ritual):)
     
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  10. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    I do 34 resets on the road as well as at home. If at home I log off duty .. on the road I usually am in sleeper for 34 hours straight. Although I do try to break it up because I always thought it looked suspect. I have never been written up for it in an inspection logging 34hrs straight in sleeper. But I have heard of guys getting written for it.. now these were lunch counter stories but I can imagine some mouth breathing dot officer, saying there's no possible way to be in a sleeper for 34hrs straight. What, u don't get out to take a piss? And he does have a point... even know it would change nothing on the logbook in regards to your Hours, it's just a technicallity.
     
  11. DavidInPuyallup

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    On Duty - Pretrip inspection
     
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