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    DIESEL FUEL LUBRICITY ADDITIVES STUDY RESULTS
    The following are the preliminary results of a research study on diesel fuel
    Lubricity Additives. There is likely to be further commentary and explanation
    added at a future time.
    PURPOSE:
    The purpose of this research was to determine the ability of multiple diesel
    fuel additives to replace the vital lubricity component in ULSD (Ultra Low
    Sulfur Diesel) fuel.
    HISTORY:
    ULSD fuel is the fuel currently mandated for use in all on road diesel
    engines. This fuel burns cleaner and is less polluting than its predecessor,
    called Low Sulfur Diesel Fuel. Low sulfur fuel contained less than 500 ppm of
    sulfur. ULSD contains 15 ppm or less.
    As diesel fuel is further refined to remove the polluting sulfur, it is
    inadvertently stripped of its lubricating properties. This vital lubrication is a
    necessary component of the diesel fuel as it prevents wear in the fuel
    delivery system. Specifically, it lubricates pumps, high pressure pumps and
    injectors. Traditional Low sulfur diesel fuel typically contained enough
    lubricating ability to suffice the needs of these vital components. ULSD fuel,
    on the other hand, is considered to be very "dry" and incapable of lubricating
    vital fuel delivery components. As a result, these components are at risk of
    premature and even catastrophic failure when ULSD fuel is introduced to the
    system. As a result, all oil companies producing ULSD fuel must replace the
    lost lubricity with additives. All ULSD fuel purchased at retail fuel stations
    SHOULD be adequately treated with additives to replace this lost lubricity.
    The potential result of using inadequately treated fuel, as indicated above,
    can be catastrophic. There have been many documented cases of randomly
    tested samples of diesel fuel. These tests prove that often times the fuel we
    purchase is not adequately treated and may therefore contribute to
    accelerated wear of our fuel delivery systems. For this reason it may be
    prudent to use an after market diesel fuel additive to ENSURE adequate
    lubrication of the fuel delivery system. Additionally, many additives can offer
    added benefits such as Cetane improver, anti-gel agents and water
    separators (demulsifiers). Some fuel additives include water emulsifiers that
    cause the water to remain in suspension with the fuel.
    Copyright© The Diesel Place & A. D. Spicer - 2 - August, 2007
    CONTENT:
    In this study we will test multiple diesel fuel additives designed to replace
    lost lubricity. The primary component of this study is a side-by-side
    laboratory analysis of each additive's ability to replace this vital lubricity.
    Additionally, claims of improving Cetane, water separation or emulsification,
    bio-diesel compatibility and alcohol content will be noted. These notes were
    derived from information that was readily available to consumers (via the
    label and internet information) and none of this information has been
    evaluated for validity and/or performance. Cetane information has only been
    noted if the word "Cetane" was used in the advertising information. The
    words "improves power" has not been translated to mean "improves Cetane"
    in this evaluation. Information on alcohol content is provided by indicating
    "contains no alcohol". Omission of the words "contains no alcohol" does not
    imply that it does contain alcohol. This information was simply missing in the
    information available to a consumer. However, the possibility of a form of
    alcohol in these products is possible. Additionally, information on dosages
    and cost per tankful are included for comparison purposes.
    How Diesel Fuel Is Evaluated For Lubricating Ability:
    Diesel fuel and other fluids are tested for lubricating ability using a device
    called a "High Frequency Reciprocating Rig" or HFRR. The HFRR is currently
    the Internationally accepted, standardized method to evaluate fluids for
    lubricating ability. It uses a ball bearing that reciprocates or moves back and
    forth on a metal surface at a very high frequency for a duration of 90
    minutes. The machine does this while the ball bearing and metal surface are
    immersed in the test fluid (in this case, treated diesel fuel). At the end of the
    test the ball bearing is examined under a microscope and the "wear scar" on
    the ball bearing is measured in microns. The larger the wear scar, the poorer
    the lubricating ability of the fluid. The independent lab runs every sample
    twice and averages the size of the wear scar.
    The U.S. standard for diesel fuel says a commercially available diesel fuel
    should produce a wear scar of no greater than 520 microns.
    The Engine Manufacturers Association had requested a standard of a
    wear scar no greater than 460 microns, typical of the pre-ULSD fuels.
    Most experts agree that a 520 micron standard is adequate, but also that
    the lower the wear scar the better.
    Copyright© The Diesel Place & A. D. Spicer - 3 - August, 2007
    METHOD:
    An independent research firm was hired to do the laboratory work. The cost
    of the research was paid for voluntarily by the participating additive
    manufacturers. Declining to participate and pay for the research were the
    following companies: Amsoil and Power Service. Because these are popular
    products it was determined that they needed to be included in the study.
    These products were tested using funds collected by diesel enthusiasts at
    "dieselplace.com". Additionally, unconventional additives such as 2-cycle oil
    and used motor oil were tested for their abilities to aid in diesel fuel lubricity.
    These were also paid for by members of "dieselplace.com".
    The study was conducted in the following manner:
    -The independent research firm obtained a quantity of "untreated" ULSD fuel
    from a supplier. This fuel was basic ULSD fuel intended for use in diesel
    engines. However, this sample was acquired PRIOR to any attempt to
    additize the fuel for the purpose of replacing lost lubricity. In other words, it
    was a "worst case scenario, very dry diesel fuel" that would likely cause
    damage to any fuel delivery system. The fuel was tested using the HFRR
    testing facility at the Laboratory. This fuel was determined to have a
    very high HFRR score of 636 microns, typical of an untreated ULSD
    fuel. It was determined that this batch of fuel would be utilized as the
    baseline fuel for testing all of the additives. The baseline fuel HFRR score of
    636 would be used as the control sample. All additives tested would be
    evaluated on their ability to replace lost lubricity to the fuel by comparing
    their scores to the control sample. Any score under 636 shows improvement
    to the fuels ability to lubricate the fuel delivery system of a diesel engine.
    BLIND STUDY:
    In order to ensure a completely unbiased approach to the study, the
    following steps were taken:
    Each additive tested was obtained independently via internet or over the
    counter purchases. The only exceptions were Opti-Lube XPD and the biodiesel
    sample. The reason for this is because Opti-Lube XPD additive was
    considered "experimental" at the time of test enrollment and was not yet on
    the market. It was sent directly from Opti-Lube company. The bio-diesel
    sample was sponsored by Renewable Energy Group. One of their suppliers,
    E.H. Wolf and Sons in Slinger, Wisconsin supplied us with a sample of 100%
    Copyright© The Diesel Place & A. D. Spicer - 4 - August, 2007
    soybean based bio-diesel. This sample was used to blend with the baseline
    fuel to create a 2% bio-diesel for testing.
    Each additive was bottled separately in identical glass containers. The
    bottles were labeled only with a number. This number corresponded to the
    additive contained in the bottle. The order of numbering was done randomly
    by drawing names out of a hat. Only Spicer Research held the key to the
    additives in each bottle.
    The additive samples were then sent in a box to the independent research
    firm for testing. The only information given them was the ratio of fuel to be
    added to each additive sample. For example, bottle "A" needs to be mixed at
    a ratio of "480-1". The ratio used for each additive was the "prescribed
    dosage" found on the bottle label for that product. Used motor oil and 2-
    cycle oil were tested at a rationally chosen ratio of 200:1.
    The technician at the laboratory mixed the proper ratio of each "bottled
    fluid" into a separate container containing the baseline fuel. The data,
    therefore, is meaningful because every additive is tested in the same way
    using the same fuel. A side-by-side comparison of the effectiveness of each
    additive is now obtainable.
    THE RESULTS:
    These results are listed in the order of performance in the HFRR test. The
    baseline fuel used in every test started at an HFRR score of 636. The
    score shown is the tested HFRR score of the baseline fuel/additive blend.
    Also included is the wear scar improvement provided by the additive as well
    as other claimed benefits of the additive. Each additive is also categorized as
    a Multi-purpose additive, Multi-purpose + anti-gel, Lubricity only, nonconventional,
    or as an additive capable of treating both gasoline and diesel
    fuel.
    As a convenience to the reader there is also information on price per treated
    tank of diesel fuel (using a 26 gallon tank), and dosage per 26 gallon tank
    provided as "ounces of additive per 26 gallon tank".
    Copyright© The Diesel Place & A. D. Spicer - 5 - August, 2007
    RESULTS
    In Order Of Performance:
    1) 2% REG SoyPower bio-diesel
    HFRR 221, 415 micron improvement.
    50:1 ratio of baseline fuel to 100% biodiesel
    66.56 oz. of 100% biodiesel per 26 gallons of diesel fuel
    Price: market value
    2) Opti-Lube XPD
    Multi-purpose + anti-gel
    Cetane Improver, Demulsifier
    HFRR 317, 319 micron improvement.
    256:1 ratio
    13 oz/tank
    $4.35/tank
    3) FPPF RV, Bus, SUV Diesel/Gas Fuel Treatment
    Gas and Diesel
    Cetane improver, Emulsifier
    HFRR 439, 197 micron improvement
    640:1 ratio
    5.2 oz/tank
    $2.60/tank
    4) Opti-Lube Summer Blend
    Multi-purpose
    Demulsifier
    HFRR 447, 189 micron improvement
    3000:1 ratio
    1.11 oz/tank
    $0.68/tank
    5) Opti-Lube Winter Blend
    Muti-purpose + anti-gel
    Cetane improver
    HFRR 461, 175 micron improvement
    512:1 ratio
    6.5 oz/tank
    $3.65/tank
    Copyright© The Diesel Place & A. D. Spicer - 6 - August, 2007
    6) Schaeffer Diesel Treat 2000
    Multi-purpose + anti-gel
    Cetane improver, Emulsifier, bio-diesel compatible
    HFRR 470, 166 micron improvement
    1000:1 ratio
    3.32 oz/tank
    $1.87/tank
    7) Super Tech Outboard 2-Cycle TC-W3 Engine Oil
    Unconventional
    (Not ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 or newer systems)
    HFRR 474, 162 micron improvement
    200:1 ratio
    16.64 oz/tank
    $1.09/tank
    8) Stanadyne Lubricity Formula
    Lubricity Only
    Demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
    HFRR 479, 157 micron improvement
    1000:1 ratio
    3.32 oz/tank
    $1.00/tank
    9) Amsoil Diesel Concentrate
    Multi-purpose
    Demulsifier, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
    HFRR 488, 148 micron improvement
    640:1 ratio
    5.2 oz/tank
    $2.16/tank
    10) Power Service Diesel Kleen + Cetane Boost
    Multi-purpose
    Cetane improver, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
    HFRR 575, 61 micron improvement
    400:1 ratio
    8.32 oz/tank
    $1.58/tank
    Copyright© The Diesel Place & A. D. Spicer - 7 - August, 2007
    11) Howe's Meaner Power Kleaner
    Multi-purpose
    Alcohol free
    HFRR 586, 50 micron improvement
    1000:1 ratio
    3.32 oz/tank
    $1.36/tank
    12) Stanadyne Performance Formula
    Multi-purpose + anti-gel
    Cetane improver, Demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
    HFRR 603, 33 micron improvement
    480:1 ratio
    6.9 oz/tank
    $4.35/tank
    13) Used Motor Oil, Shell Rotella T 15W-40, 5,000 miles used.
    Unconventional
    (Not ULSD compliant, may damage systems)
    HFRR 634, 2 micron improvement (statistically insignificant change)
    200:1 ratio
    16.64 oz/tank
    price: $0.00
    14) Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant
    Gas or Diesel
    HFRR 641, 5 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant
    change)
    427:1 ratio
    7.8 oz/tank
    $2.65/tank
    15) B1000 Diesel Fuel Conditioner by Milligan Biotech
    Multi-purpose, canola oil based additive
    HFRR 644, 8 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant
    change)
    1000:1 ratio
    3.32 oz/tank
    $2.67/tank
    Copyright© The Diesel Place & A. D. Spicer - 8 - August, 2007
    16) FPPF Lubricity Plus Fuel Power
    Multi-purpose + anti-gel
    Emulsifier, alcohol free
    HFRR 675, 39 microns worse than baseline fuel
    1000:1 ratio
    3.32 oz/tank
    $1.12/tank
    17) Marvel Mystery Oil
    Gas, Oil and Diesel fuel additive (NOT ULSD compliant, may damage
    2007 and newer systems)
    HFRR 678, 42 microns worse than baseline fuel.
    320:1 ratio
    10.4 oz/tank
    $3.22/tank
    18) ValvTect Diesel Guard Heavy Duty/Marine Diesel Fuel Additive
    Multi-purpose
    Cetane improver, Emulsifier, alcohol free
    HFRR 696, 60 microns worse than baseline fuel
    1000:1 ratio
    3.32 oz/tank
    $2.38/tank
    19) Primrose Power Blend 2003
    Multi-purpose
    Cetane boost, bio-diesel compatible, Emulsifier
    HFRR 711, 75 microns worse than baseline
    1066:1 ratio
    3.12 oz/tank
    $1.39/tank
    CONCLUSIONS:
    Products 1 through 4 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an
    HFRR score of 460 or better. This meets the strictest requirements
    requested by the Engine Manufacturers Association.
    Products 1 through 9 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an
    HFRR score of 520 or better, meeting the U.S. diesel fuel requirements for
    maximum wear scar in a commercially available diesel fuel.
    Copyright© The Diesel Place & A. D. Spicer - 9 - August, 2007
    Products 16 through 19 were found to cause the fuel/additive blend to
    perform worse than the baseline fuel. The cause for this is speculative. This
    is not unprecedented in HFRR testing and can be caused by alcohol or other
    components in the additives. Further investigation into the possibilities
    behind these poor results will be investigated.
    Any additive testing within +/- 20 microns of the baseline fuel could be
    considered to have no significant change. The repeatability of this test allows for a
    +/- 20 micron variability to be considered insignificant.
    CREDITS:
    This study would not have been possible without the participation of all
    companies involved, the independent research firm, and dieselplace.com. A
    special Thank You to all of the dieselplace.com members who generously
    donated toward this study and waited longer than they should have for the
    results.
    You folks are the best.
    Arlen Spicer, organizer.
    Copyright© The Diesel Place & A. D. Spicer
    Ranking Additive
    HFRR
    Score
    Improvement
    Over
    Base Fuel
    Blend
    Ratio
    Dose
    Oz. per
    26-Gal Tank
    MSRP
    $ Cost per
    26-Gal Tank COMMENTS
    Desired Engine Manufacturers Assoc DESIRED < 460 Desired by the Engine Manufacturers Association
    Standard U.S. Standard < 520 U.S. Lubricity Standard for ULSD fuel
    Baseline Untreated ULSD #2 Diesel Fuel 636 Baseline fuel used in this study
    1 2% REG SoyPower Biodiesel 221 415 50:1 66.56 Market Soybean based bio-diesel
    2 Opti-Lube XPD 317 319 256:1 13.00 $4.35 Multi-purpose + anti-gel, Cetane improver, Demulsifier
    3 FPPF RV, Bus, SUV
    Diesel/Gas Fuel Treatment 439 197 640:1 5.20 $2.60 Gas & Diesel - Cetane improver, Emulsifier
    4 Opti-Lube Summer Blend 447 189 3000:1 1.11 $0.68 Multi-purpose, Demulsifier
    5 Opti-Lube Winter Blend 461 175 512:1 6.50 $3.65 Muti-purpose + anti-gel, Cetane improver
    6 Schaeffer Diesel Treat 2000 470 166 1000:1 3.33 $1.87 Multi-purpose + anti-gel, Cetane improver, Emulsifier, bio-diesel compatible
    7 Super Tech Outboard
    2-Cycle TC-W3 Engine Oil 474 162 200:1 16.64 $1.09 Unconventional
    - (Not ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 or newer systems)
    8 Stanadyne Lubricity Formula 479 157 1000:1 3.32 $1.00 Lubricant, Demulsifier, Detergent, Anti-Oxidant, Corrosion Inhibitor, Alcohol-Free
    9 Amsoil Diesel Concentrate 488 148 640:1 5.20 $2.16 Multi-purpose - Demulsifier, alcohol free, bio-diesel compatible
    10 Power Service Diesel Kleen
    + Cetane Boost 575 61 400:1 8.32 $1.58 Multi-purpose - Cetane improver, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
    11 Howe's Meaner Power Kleaner 586 50 1000:1 3.32 $1.36 Multi-purpose -Alcohol free
    12 Stanadyne Performance Formula 603 33 480:1 6.93 $4.35 Multi-purpose + anti-gel - Cetane improver, Demulsifier, Detergent, Anti-Oxidant,
    Corrosion Inhibitor, Alcohol-Free, 5% bio-diesel compatible
    13 Used Motor Oil Shell Rotella T 15W-40
    5,000 miles used. 634 + 2
    Insignifficant 200:1 16.64 $0.00 Unconventional
    - (Not ULSD compliant, may damage systems)
    14 Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant 641 - 5
    Insignifficant 427:1 7.79 $2.65 Gas or Diesel
    15 B1000 Diesel Fuel Conditioner
    by Milligan Biotech 644 - 8
    Insignifficant 1000:1 3.32 $2.67 Multi-purpose, canola oil based additive
    16 FPPF Lubricity Plus Fuel Power 675 - 39 1000:1 3.32 $1.12 Multi-purpose + anti-gel - Emulsifier, alcohol free
    17 Marvel Mystery Oil 678 - 42 320:1 10.40 $3.22 Gas, Oil and Diesel fuel additive
    - (NOT ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 and newer systems)
    18 ValvTect Diesel Guard
    Heavy Duty/Marine Diesel Fuel Additive 696 - 60 1000:1 3.32 $2.38 Multi-purpose - Cetane improver, Emulsifier, alcohol free
    19 Primrose Power Blend 2003 711 - 75 1066:1 3.12 $1.39 Multi-purpose - Cetane boost, bio-diesel compatible, Emulsifier
    Products 13 through 15 had a statistically insignifficant effect on the HFRR score compared to the baseline fuel.
    Any additive testing within +/- 20 microns of the baseline fuel could be considered to have no significant change. The repeatability of this test allows for a +/- 20 micron variability to be
    considered insignificant.
    DIESEL FUEL LUBRICITY ADDITIVES STUDY RESULTS
    Products 1 through 4 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an HFRR score of 460 or better. This meets the strictest requirements requested by the Engine Manufacturers
    Association.
    Products 1 through 9 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an HFRR score of 520 or better, meeting the U.S. diesel fuel requirements for maximum wear scar in a commercially
    available diesel fuel.
    Products 16 through 19 were found to cause the fuel/additive blend to perform worse than the baseline fuel. The cause for this is speculative. This is not unprecedented in HFRR testing
    and can be caused by alcohol or other components in the additives. Further investigation into the possibilities behind these poor results will be investigated.
    Copyright© The Diesel Place & A. D. Spicer August, 2007
     
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  3. j-dawg

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    I was told even the smoke can still have enough sunburned gases to affect the canister. We have way less wax in or fuel in thevwinter hence dryer fuel so more of a need for fuel additives. The easiest one, and sometimes the cheapest is 2-stroke oil.
     
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  4. bigstank

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    ATF is good for pre-emissions but only use type F not dex-3
     
  5. Dave 1960

    Dave 1960 Road Train Member

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    When ULSD hit I was religiously putting 2 stroke oil in my Common Rail Ram.

    Now almost everywhere I get fuel it says up to 5% Bio so I don't do it anymore.

    Could not say for absolute certain that it made any difference. But I was convinced it did.
     
  6. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    i run 2 stroke oil in older diesels frequently they were designed for fuel with higher sulfur the new low sulfur fuels are dryer (less lubrication) i have noted very positive results with 2 stroke oil in older motors and its cheap, buy mine at walmart in gallon jugs as well. i would not run it in newer motors however as they were made to run on current fuel formulations.
     
  7. JohnP3

    JohnP3 Road Train Member

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    Everyone talks about all the problems that happened because they took the sulphur out of the fuel. I worked on the engines when they did it and we had 2 older Cummins that leaked fuel down the throttle shaft. we never had any other problems because of the fuel. We have mountains in the area and are the #1 warrenty location for engines in North America.
    It cut down on burnt valves and turbo problems a lot.
    All this lubricity talk is BS, as far as I am concerned, because the only people I ever see having these problems, are the ones that add all these fancy additives, the ones that use plain fuel never have problems. In the arctic they run fuel that is like white gas, I worked on units that ran the arctic and used arctic grade fuel they never put in additives and never had any fuel related problems.
    Using ATF in you fuel is really not a good idea it has Molybdenum dissolved in it, that is a metal friction reducer.
    Clean fuel, that is the best thing, spend you money on a Davco fuel filter system and be Happy!
    Just a thought!
     
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  8. steven76

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    2 stroke oil for semi truck. Little story: my truck injector stuck open (after biodiesel blend 20%) and let diesel run in to the engine. That's actually wash down engine oil from inside of the engine. So it can damage piston rings. Soon I see it I add oil stabilizer to engine oil make sure that oil get thicker and I add two stroke oil to the fuel. For 100 gal 1-2 gal. (Only in this situation!) so my engine made it and after 10-20 min injector get lubricated again and work well. TRUCK WITH DPF FILTER CANT SURVIVE TWO STROKE OIL IN THE DIESEL FUEL! dpf filter will be crack and your truck can't do regen. Looks like everything is good but the filter newer get high enough temp in the exhaust system. Than your run will be do regen forever even can catch on fire. DO NOT ADD TWO STROKE OIL TO YOUR TRUCK WHEN YOU HAVE DPF FILTER.
     
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