Hello,
We recently added a 2002 Kenworth T800 twin screw day cab tractor to our fleet. Truck has 605,000 mi on the chassis, approximately 300,000 mi on the engine. Engine is a Detroit 60 series 12.7, stock everything paired to a Eaton 10 speed and brownie box.
Truck runs great, and exceptionally clean no smoke whatsoever during normal operation.
The truck has an intermittent issue where after coasting or very light throttle input on a down hill it will cough or start sputtering if you will and blow some grey smoke as the RPMs pick up when the accelerator pedal is pressed. The smoke smells of raw diesel.
We have completed the following repairs to ensure that it is not a mechanical failure prior to chasing an electrical or software issue.
The air filter, both fuel filters, fuel feed lines and crossover valve have been replaced, and we replaced the APPS sensor and wiring harness as a precaution. A scan of the truck does not yield any trouble codes.
Prior to our purchase the ECM was flashed with the factory tuning from a dealer which was a "Low NOX" emissions friendly tune. After extensive trouble shooting and time online we have settled on this emissions friendly tune being the culprit as it is regarding the timing too far in the ECM's low demand parameters and the injection timing while it falls in those parameters is causing the cylinders to be over fueled and it is too rich when power is demanded. The truck did not have this issue when I purchased in Phoenix AZ, but the issue showed up immediately as I approached 4000 ft elevation.
I took the rig to a shop, they came to the same conclusion I did and claimed they could tune the truck, however after having the truck a few days they said they could not tune it, as they did not have the original Detroit tuning files.
I have a guy who can connect to the truck and allow remote access to the truck, but he does not have any tuning
Do any of you know anyone who has a tune or the ability to tune this rig so we can get it on the road
Thank you
Garrett
2002 Kenworth T800 Detroit 60 Series 12.7 Tuning Help
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Garrett_Rozendaal, Aug 1, 2026.
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I have put my faith in Pittsburgh Power to handle difficult-to-diagnose electrical issues. It seams just mentioning their name is "controversial" because I've often heard that they are overpriced. My view is that as long they diagnose and fix your truck correctly the first time, then I don't mind paying more $. In the last 15 years, I've had them rebuild one engine, do 2 ecm tunes, and also some other stuff, and haven't had a problem with their work. However, I've never tried going anywhere else. So, there might be someone who does reliable work for less $. PP used to have at one time 1 mechanical engineer, several electrical engineers, and one chemical engineer on staff. An electrical engineer (Leroy) started with them when they built out their ECM program, then went to Cummins (to Cummins development side), then years later came back to PP. He was there last year when I took my truck there. What impressed my with PP is that they invested in a Dyno that has a hydraulic pressure plate to stabilizes the truck at the 1/5th wheel-and is patterned I think. It allows mechanics to try to "recreate" a problem and troubleshoot while being around the truck. The fact that they allocated so much resources-at a big risk I imagine-to be able to get trucks running right says a lot to me. I imagine they've just about seen it all and can get that truck running right "on the first try". They used to have remote tuning as well. So I bet they still do.
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Thats great to know. Thank you very much. I'll reach out to them tomorrow AM
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Leon from CT can tune detroits , he did 2 of mines
Magoo1968 Thanks this. -
Thank you! I have never heard of them. Do you have a website you could share? Lot of results when I search CT Tuning online
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Tuning is never gonna repair a mechanical issues
Diesel Dave, Big Road Skateboard, blairandgretchen and 2 others Thank this. -
If you read the post, we already ruled out mechanical issues and the issues is a Low NOX factory tune.
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DCS - Fernando DeMoura. Diesel Control Services.
I sent him mine for memory replacement, internal inspection, testing and tune. Happy with the result, if you need the ECM ran on a test bench with injectors for 12 hours to completely eliminate it as a culprit, and to re-establish a 'tune', or set of parameters, after every other computer monkey has been at it.Garrett_Rozendaal and DUNE-T Thank this. -
No you haven’t but your convinced you habepushbroom, Tall Mike, Big Road Skateboard and 2 others Thank this.
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If the engine was rebuilt with the low compression pistons (common) they often smoke especially in cold weather but I’d suspect a leaking injector . Do you oil sample I’d bet fuel dilution is high.. most low nox tunes are harder on fuel and less power but not known for smoking from what I remember.. PS Pittsburgh power will only sell you a pricey low nox tune because epa went after them years ago..
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