35 or 40 ton rgn?

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  1. SemperFiServices

    SemperFiServices Medium Load Member

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    Last year we ran a 40 ton 6 axle rig, good for 112k gross. Had to turn it back in and go back to our step.

    Looking to get another rgn, but there's a lot more 35 ton wagons with flips than 40 ton- especially in our budget. The most I've ever grossed was 110k, and the heaviest load I ever put on was 70k, well under the trailers 40t rating, and still within the 35t trailer rating. The most we typically would haul is 66k (military freight).

    So yes I know it's better to have the more heavy duty trailer- BUT is it necessary?
     
  2. beastr123

    beastr123 Road Train Member

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    Yes a 40 ton would be better because you could move those loads that are just out of your range with the 35t but you should consider that the 40t will be on average 2500 lbs heavier overall and that is without adding a flip or a modular deck.
    If you are happy with restricting your work to about 70k then the 35t makes sense but if you see a need to move 75k or 80k loads in your area on a regular basis then the extra to go 40t makes sense if you see enough work.
     
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  3. RollinThunderVet

    RollinThunderVet Heavy Load Member

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    I second beast. The 35t are cheaper and lighter. But if your averaging 66k, you are close to max and I personally dont like to be at max rating consistently. My though would be a nice 40 or 45.
    I will be looking for a 45t here in June.
    Ooh-RAH
     
  4. heavyhaulershotcaller

    heavyhaulershotcaller Light Load Member

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    Depends on what brands you are looking at. Trail King and XL who have a large market share in the double drops have a standard rating of 40 tons to where 5 years ago or so they were 35 tons. They are basically the same exact trailer. The load concentrations are exactly the same rated 70,000# in 16' whether it is a 35 ton or 40 ton. The weights are within 100# of each other. You talk about 66k military freight and that is concentrated loads so the same load concentration being the same and within your spec a 35 ton would be fine in my opinion.

    I think Fontaine and maybe Talbert offer a 40ton that has a flip neck extension to go 7 axles and I think the load concentration maybe be 80,000# in 16' and if so they would be heavier. Best way to check is look at the vin tag and at the same time take the gvwr rating and subtract the capacity to get the empty stamp weight to be sure it isn't too much heavier. Trail King and XL offers a 45 ton to compete with Talbert and Fontaine's 7 axle capable setup.

    The double drop detach is one of the most widely used trailers on the market. These manufacturers are not going to under rate their trailers to risk a failure to loose any sales or cost any lives being lost. If its rated 70,000# in 16' then it should be able to do it repeatedly many many times.
     
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  5. Rontonio

    Rontonio Road Train Member

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    Just watch concentrated load on older trailers - you will see plenty of worn out 35 tons with the deck severely negative....

    nothing lasts for ever and guys are buying on price sometimes and not taking the fatigue into account.

    and I would be careful about saying nothing is different on a 40 ton versus a 35 ton. They may very well have necks or front pins that are uprated to allow the additional weight.
     
  6. beastr123

    beastr123 Road Train Member

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    Thus the extra weight when there are only minor visual differences
     
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  7. RollinThunderVet

    RollinThunderVet Heavy Load Member

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    thats exactly why id rather have at MINUMUM a 10% higher capacity trailer than what i can haul at max gross for my setup.
     
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