7/3 split question

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Dna Mach, May 20, 2021.

  1. Dna Mach

    Dna Mach Road Train Member

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    Can someone help me figure this out? This particular day I was able to pause my 14 hour clock. I’ve been playing around with this and not really sure how I did it. When I stopped that night I still had 53 minutes available on my 14 and 11 hour clock.

    If the 0000 to 0630 period had been off duty instead of sleeper berth, would I still have paused my 14?

    Also, how late in the day could I have driven, gone off duty and still paused my 14?
     
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  3. Wasted Thyme

    Wasted Thyme Road Train Member

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    No you had 53 minutes of Drive left and 3 hrs and 23 minutes of your 14. Since the 9-1300 break paused your 14. Only the drive time and that 30 minute break took away from your 14

    Though you never did a PTI the whole day. That would be a violation.
     
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  4. pavrom

    pavrom Road Train Member

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    Should pti must be marked or assumed that i did it for example while loading/fueling/eating sandwich ...
    I dont mark pti ...very rarely ...been checked couple times ...never mentioned a violation
    I am glad you raised it , would like to hear
     
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  5. Wasted Thyme

    Wasted Thyme Road Train Member

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    PTI is On Duty work. It's not something you do Off Duty. So you should have one PTI/On Duty of at least 5 minutes. (air pressure/fluids) and one PTI/On Duty for your Full one. My company has that be at least 30 minutes. We do the small PTI start of day and the full PTI end of day. I will lots of times due my PTI/Fuel at the same time. So while pump is running I can be checking lights and tire pressure. Kills two birds one stone.
     
  6. Cattleman84

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    Any one break of at least 2 hours (off duty or sleeper) will pause your 14 hr clock, provided it is paired with another break of at least 7 hours (must be sleeper) and the 2 breaks equal at least 10 hours when added together.

    I always start my 10 hr break with a short Off Duty period of 30 mins to 2 hrs, then go to Sleeper to finish my 10. I have always done it this way, but since the new split rules it ensures that I can always pause my 14 if I need to. I very rarely do a true split reset anymore, but I do pause my 14 on a regular basis then do my 10 at the end of my day as normal.
     
  7. Cattleman84

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    I would have to look up the regulation to quote it... However, I do know that at least 1 PTI must be shown sometime during every shift. No where in the rwgs does it state how long that PTI must take, simply that it must be logged once a day as on duty.
     
  8. Dna Mach

    Dna Mach Road Train Member

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    Thanks! Yes very bad habit and I’ve had my logs scrutinized in Oklahoma, Texas, California, and Arkansas. A few, my company included have mentioned that I need to log my PTI’s but luckily sent me on my way with a clean bill of health. Will be logging them now.

    It’s so rare when I could use that extra bit of drive time but it sure is invaluable when I do need it. Starting to make a little more sense now on the split logs.
     
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  9. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Actually no. A pti isn't required anywhere in the regulations, and as such there is no regulations stating how often it has to be done (US rules, Canada is different).
    What is required is a whole list of stuff the driver needs to be satisfied is in working order. Yes, I know it's a fire distinction, but a distinction nonetheless. There are a few ways I can think of to be satisfied, but not do an actual pti. From the absurd of the company has a mechanic who's sole job is preforming pti's to the plausible of driving a truck right after it rolls off the assembly line.
    That said, I would always do a pti myself as I don't trust others, but the point is there is no regulation to log a pti as there is no regulation to even do one.
    And yes, there is a regulation to log a pti as on duty, IF it is done, just no requirement to do it.
     
  10. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

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    Another post that proves we need a love button in addition to a thank button.
     
  11. drivingmissdaisy

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    That's a company thing, not a DOT thing. Nowhere are you required to show a PTI or DO a PTI.
     
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