Adjustments to 5th wheel

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  1. Commuter69

    Commuter69 Road Train Member

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    I am pretty sure that my truck is going to be traded soon and have a question that I only see when I get a NEW truck. This is pretty much a set and forget thing.....

    Assuming a typical 2 drive axles configuration, my thinking is that the 5th wheel should be set so that the kingpin is right between the axles.

    Am I right?
     
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  3. Dockbumper

    Dockbumper Road Train Member

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    Yes and no. It will vary by make and model. It is a good place to start. When you get your new tractor assignment, hit a Cat Scale with an empty trailer and full of fuel. Write down those weights for future reference. The first heavy load you get, scale and put 33000-34000 on your drives and slide your 5th wheel to get your steers a bit under 12000. At that point you should never need to move it again.
     
  4. OTJBBEERGOGGLES

    OTJBBEERGOGGLES Bobtail Member

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    Having 5th wheel fully forward reduces fuel consumption..turbulent air between cab and trailer is reduced.
    But you cannot jacknife your truck to a full 90 degrees without risking fairing damage.
     
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  5. Commuter69

    Commuter69 Road Train Member

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    I have kept my 5th wheel in the same position and not once had to adjust it after I set it when I got it.
     
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  6. Dockbumper

    Dockbumper Road Train Member

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    Exactly!
     
  7. Dockbumper

    Dockbumper Road Train Member

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    OK.....:rolleyes:
     
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  8. Dave1837

    Dave1837 Road Train Member

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    When I was issued a new truck it was all the way back, my dad told me to slide it about 1 notch behind the front axle. I hit a CAT scale with 46k and it came out perfect. When I switched jobs and got into this truck I did the same thing and it came out perfect again. I'll pass my dad's wisdom on to you lol
     
  9. slow.rider

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    On most interstates your steer limit is determined by your steer tires rated capacity. Get load range H steer tires, which gives yourself 14k+ weight rating on steers, slide 5th wheel all the way forward, pocket the fuel savings. Then you only have to worry about the 12k steer axle limit on certain state roads and such, or you can just roll the dice. There's also a couple scalehouses which measure each drive axle independently, but I don't know of a way to scale each axle independently anywhere else except those scalehouses, so I don't worry about it.
     
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  10. IH Truck Guy

    IH Truck Guy Road Train Member

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    The front axle has to be rated to carry the extra weight.
    My tires are rated for 25,000 but the axle is rated for 20,000.
    You will always be held to the lowest rated component.
     
  11. slow.rider

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    Fair point. I'm still shaking off the cobwebs this morning.
     
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