After 14 hours, can you drive a non-commercial vehicle for your company?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by eglosenger, Jun 21, 2013.

  1. fuzzeymateo

    fuzzeymateo Heavy Load Member

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    The reason I brought up the landscaping pick-up is because many years ago I owned a landscaping company in the state of SD. The pick-up had a commercial registration (license plate). In OK business vehicles that are registered as "commercial" through the state are required to have a large sticker that says "commercial vehicle". So by the states definition these vehicles are "commercial"; however, this is all irrelevant because as seen in the posting by ROADMEDIC these are not considered CMV's under the FMCSR which is what we fall under.

    http://www.tax.ok.gov/mv4e.html
     
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  3. fuzzeymateo

    fuzzeymateo Heavy Load Member

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    That was exactly my point! But it's not a CMV defined by the FMCSR. So that must be the answer. I think????
     
  4. Noggin

    Noggin Road Train Member

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    I think i understand now. ... states will classify it as commercial for tax purposes but it doesn't qualify for HOS regs on a federal level...?
     
  5. fuzzeymateo

    fuzzeymateo Heavy Load Member

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    That's my understanding as well
     
  6. Noggin

    Noggin Road Train Member

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    Just another way to keep their thumb on us
     
  7. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    It defines CMV classifications but says nothing about registrations . States determine that . Note that the requirement involving a trailer 10,001 lbs. or over is only if combined weight is 26,001 or more . This would not include a truck with a GVWR 10,000 lbs. with a trailer 15,000 lbs .

    A CMV is a vehicle 10,001 lbs. or more . Drivers require a medical card or log book .

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=390.5

    Now this is interesting . The above is the definition of CMV according to part 390.5 .
    It conflicts with the definition of a CMV Roadmedic linked to for part 383.5 but both say they are current to April 12 , 2013
     
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  8. Noggin

    Noggin Road Train Member

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    I wasn't sure on the combo stats thanks :)
     
  9. Jojodad

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    my company will have us do a night route no logs and no time cards using the 150 air nautical miles but will ask us to do another route but if you do your still EXPECTED to drive that same night so it's going from a night route directly to a day route home for less than 5 hours and back to a night route. is this legal the vehicle is a Straight truck non-cdl. please tell me what the regulations are for this type of activity
     
  10. firemedic2816

    firemedic2816 Heavy Load Member

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    You’re posting on a post that’s been dead for 8 years
     
  11. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    For the record there are no conflicts between 390 and 383 in regard to what defines a commercial motor vehicle. This thread is old so I won’t quote any of it, but I have not laughed this hard at how silly some of these answers were. I bet even the current forum rulebook thumper knows why I find it so funny.
     
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