After overhaul on Cummins ISX CM 870

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  1. snejana73

    snejana73 Bobtail Member

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    I picked up my semi with Cummins ISX CM 870 10 days ago from the shop after an overhaul was done

    I wanted to ask several question about it.

    This overhaul included : head, bearing , pistons , liners , oil pump , dumper , radiator and alternator.

    The reason for this overhaul was due to an excessive oil consumption.

    Prior to doing the overhaul ,my oil pressure was 38 at 1500, however after the overhaul my oil pressure went down to 32 . The shop used mobile oil . I use only Delo

    Is it possible that my oil pressure went down from 38 to 32 because of the different oil or the shop did something to the motor ?

    After I took the truck , I drove 1500 miles and the first problem that occurred was with the computer not be able to read the brake and I was not able to turn into gear( transmission done 7 months ago by the same shop)Second problem occurred the same day later when my truck shut off on the hwy while driving with 60 miles per hour. Later I found that the ignition fuse went bad. It was changed by another mechanic and as soon as 2 miles driving the same fuse went bad again . I managed to get back to the shop that this the overhaul, after changing 5 fuses within 40 miles and left the truck to the mechanic to fix all these issues. In the main time , I saw that their was a leak coming from the gear fuel pump and asked the mechanic to change both - the gear and the electric pimps since they were old. He did sent me a picture of the fuel two days after taking back my truck stating that the fuel was very dark (prior to the overhaul) and advised to change it next week.

    Would you please provide your opinion on why the oil pressure went down after the overhaul and if the other problems that occurred may be related to the job done by the shop.

    I did not have any of these problems prior to the overhaul.

    Also I would like to know if you have to put money down prior to the overhaul as I was asked for money upfront before this mechanic started to work on my truck. I have been his client for 10 years and never before I was asked for money upfront.
     
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  3. baha

    baha Road Train Member

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    They may have used 5 w30 SIN.oil, Yes I have had to give shops that I used all the time a check for parts, but I don't think I would give it to a shop I did not know, It cost a lot to buy the parts for the eng. rebuild, I have done the driving around to buy the parts for some of my motor rebuilds and saved a lot of cash shopping around for the factory org. parts plus using the discount that their shop got at the dealers and truck parts stores?
     
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  4. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    Any shop that requires a deposit before work is completed their integrity should be questioned.

    One of 2 things is going on....

    They dont trust you as a customer will pay the bill upon completion. After 10 years, you would think that should be clearly established or

    The shop has blown their credit or purchasing power with every local dealer for parts purchasing and are on CASH basis.

    I am not Ok with either senario as a consumer.

    Move on.........

    There is no way the oil pressure should be less after inframe.
     
  5. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

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    I do not do business that way. However I know some shops that do. Their overhead is at a minimum and likely do not even have insurance. Save a lot of time not chasing parts and going through the bill paying process.
    A good one can save you a lot of money.
    A bad one can leave you in a worse condition than you began.
     
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  6. pushbroom

    pushbroom Road Train Member

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    Oil pump may have been replaced to the updated style. See attached.
     

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  7. snejana73

    snejana73 Bobtail Member

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    How do I know if he used the OEM parts not aftermarket parts? He was paid to use original parts , however some of the parts that he used were RX parts... even thought he was told to use original parts
     
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    How do I know if he used the OEM parts not aftermarket parts? He was paid to use original parts , however some of the parts that he used were RX parts... even thought he was told to use original parts
     
  9. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

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    The RX prefix used to be the prefix for Cummings factory remanufactured parts. Often referred to as recons. In the engine shop we used RX heads, injectors, turbos and such. That universal big cam water pump was an RX45184 ( I thank ) .
    AR45184RX and no I did not look it up.
     
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  10. snejana73

    snejana73 Bobtail Member

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    Can you help me out to figure if he installed brand new cylinder head . I took picture of the head and the number stamped on the head is 4925774 . However my invoice from this shop reads 5413782.
    When I did some research , I could not find any brand new heads with 4925774 but I was able to locate 5413782 as a brand new head.
     
  11. snejana73

    snejana73 Bobtail Member

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    Can you help me out to figure if he installed brand new cylinder head . I took picture of the head and the number stamped on the head is 4925774 . However my invoice from this shop reads 5413782.
    When I did some research , I could not find any brand new heads with 4925774 but I was able to locate 5413782 as a brand new head
     
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