All this modern safety stuff is getting ridiculous

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  1. OldeSkool

    OldeSkool Road Train Member

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    I recently started driving a really new Freighliner Cascadia. The thing buzzes at me either side that gets near the line, if you get too close to the vehicle ahead of you it beeps at you, if I open the door before I set the park brake it goes into total panic mode honking. I drive a lot on 2 lane roads and the buzzer is always going off. Gets annoying really soon.

    Supposedly according to our local Ryder dealer where they rent trucks the new ones will keep score of how often you set off the buzzers. The best drivers that drive these trucks are operating at 80% what they say they should. Guess I’m just ranting a bit, but where does it all end?? Truckers have to be becoming the most monitored of any kind of workers.
     
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  3. W923

    W923 Road Train Member

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    It ends with self driving trucks….probably going to be a while
     
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  4. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    It stops when this is the reality
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    That said there is a reason i removed most of that #### off my rig. The "safety" features imo do the reverse and really should be banned. They stress out and distract the driver, can negitively effect safety by say slamming on the brakes on ice when the radar freaks out, and the auto follow device leads to many drivers being more likely to say...watch youtube and drive. The safety systems are a #### bad joke
     
  5. JC1971

    JC1971 Road Train Member

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    It's my opinion that any executive who inflicts this on drivers is a psychopath. The neverending lane departure warnings, whether or not you're over the line; the warning beep for being 5 MPH over the speed limit; the temporary cutting off of the fuel when you go by a exit ramp speed limit much lower than highway speed when you're still on the interstate; the aggressive braking when approaching a slower vehicle from behind; the camera giving you a 'Critical Event' with no audible warning to back off for following too closely; the stupid radar cruise control that forces you to initiate a pass from 500 feet back. If you move into the left lane directly behind a passing vehicle, you have to wait until it gets 500 feet ahead of you to speed up, even if it's pulling away from you at 75 MPH. The nonstop aggravations are getting to me. Getting constantly enraged at the lane departure warning isn't good for my health.
     
  6. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Medium Load Member

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    I wouldn't drive it. I'd flip burgers before being subjected to such treatment.
     
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  7. NightWind

    NightWind Road Train Member

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    Well folks look in the mirror and blame the person looking back at you. Keep voting the same scum in and this is where we're at now. Everything that happens to any part of the human race is because it was allowed. Buried heads in the sand saying "Oh that doesn't affect me, or I don't want to get involved or I have nothing to hide any number of the myriad of excuses humans use NOT to do the right thing and here we are, IMHO
     
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  8. prostartom

    prostartom Light Load Member

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    Our trucks that are leased from Penske have a switch to turn off the lane departure warning for about 10 minutes, use it all the time on back roads. Also works well in construction zones where the lines have been changed and the computer thinks you are out of your lane. I find them horribly annoying and frustrating as well, but unfortunately Penske will no longer allow us to lease trucks without them.
     
  9. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I apologise to some here in advance to this post. It may offend some but if the truth hurts.......

    These things are a result of today's society. Now, again, no offence to some but ....

    Many of today's generation have never had to do anything mechanical & I don't mean turning bolts. I just mean physical as in physics. Mom & dads have become soft in raising children & have let children just go play. Children have never had to do anything in the way of self serving. Therefore they don't know how to do anything. Parents did everything for their children. All they had to do was go play & come eat.
    It ain't just the parents, its technology. It does everything for you. They don't have to do anything. Software, automation, technology, AI etc.

    All this does is remove the actions of physically doing things with your hands & mind. If you don't do anything, you never learn to do it. That skill is lost. We talk a lot about auto-shifting transmissions. Its because society has removed that skill. Many don't know how to operate a manual transmission. That skill is lost.
    My point, society has made our society dumber. I don't mean that critically as such, just a fact. It all leads to the fact, again, everything has taken away skill. There is little physical or mechanical skill in today's society. Most just don't have the physical skills to do everyday things.
    At the end of the day, since there is little physical skill, technology is put in place to compensate for the lack of physical or mechanical skill within the generation coming into trucking. Because they've never had to do things.... they've always had human or technological intervention to do everything for them.
    So instead of training todays drivers, they implement software to do it all for you. You don't have to physically or mentally do anything. It does it all for you. It tells you, you crossed the fog line or you're following to close or you need to hit your brakes or you need to turn your turn signal on or....
    You don't have to problem solve anything.... therefore making today's society, dumber & dumber.

    In short, this stuff is in place due to a lack of skill, which removes further skill. Then they have to implement more tech (AI) to make up for lost skill, which removes further skill & the circle continues.

    Again, this isn't dogging today's generation as such. It really not their fault for the most part. Its todays society. Its everyone & everything that has taken away the skill, physical, mechanical & problem solving skills within today's society. It has made the human race, less able.... and this isn't just the youngsters, it has made us all dumber. When they take away the skill & force automation down our throats, they take away knowledge & problem solving. It makes the human race dumber & dumber.

    Physics: For every action, there is an equal & opposite reaction.
    For everything good technology does, it removes an equal & opposite human action.
    Making us dumber & dumber by forcing us to rely on someone or something else to do it for us.
     
  10. Numb

    Numb Crusty Curmudgeon

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    well said!
     
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  11. Rideandrepair

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    Very well said! I drove one for a week. Went to pass a Truck on the right that was in the hammer lane, obviously sleep driving. Weaving. Going under the speed limit. I was in the middle lane. Right lane was clear. Planned on passing him and blasting the air horn, wake him up, do him a favor. My Penske Truck slammed on the brakes as I was passing. Wouldn’t let me pass. Had it been slick, I’d surely jackknifed. It was much stupider than my arguably stupid move. Lol. My first thought was, now the Trucks are Training the Drivers. It’s true. I was careful not to do anything like that again. As far as the automatic braking. I came up on a construction back up, decided to test it out. Never touched the brake. Truck did it all. Very weird. I can see how that could avoid an accident if a driver was distracted or sleeping. Otherwise it’s all just another step towards self driving Trucks. Meanwhile we’re the Guinea pigs. I see potential for lazy drivers to do exactly what I did. Not use the foot brake.
     
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