Anti-gel over kill?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by TheDude1969, Dec 19, 2016.

  1. TheDude1969

    TheDude1969 Heavy Load Member

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    Here in Chicagoland, the temperature dipped to -15f last night, and everything is running well. In fact, in my 18yrs I've never had a problem while using Howe's fuel treatment.<--- Not an advertisement for them, I just like the written guarantee on the bottle.

    When I was a newb, my father-in-law gave the advice, keep tanks at least quarter to half full to reduce condensation. And use half of what the instructions on the bottle recommend below 0 to -10f and full treatment dose for any temp colder.

    So far, so good. Any thoughts from the older more experienced? Are we truly fighting gel, or is this a battle to keep water out of the fuel system?

    Thanks for any insight... Sure feel for all the trucks I seen broke down last night.
     
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  3. CJndaTruck

    CJndaTruck Road Train Member

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    Be careful driver. Most new trucks it will void the motor warranty if you use any type of anti gel in your fuel. I guess they feel that the winter mix is good enough to go with all the heated filters and stuff.
     
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  4. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    The only fuel I have honestly seen gelled is the fuel in new equipment or from vehicles coming up from the south. I do, however, see iced up fuel filters quite often. I think the big reason we don't see much gelled fuel is because we're so far north, the #1 diesel is available before the cold sets in.
     
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  5. LGarrison

    LGarrison Road Train Member

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    That's what the oil companies want you to do just keep doing what you're doing you're ok
     
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  6. TheDude1969

    TheDude1969 Heavy Load Member

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    That is the first I've heard of this... guess I should at least take the plastic off my owners manual LOL.
     
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  7. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

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    Yes good idea to keep your fuel tank up. During the cold it's not so much an issue but once it warms back up closer to the freezing point all of that condensation gets released and fouls things up.
    Especially if you park indoors you have to keep the tanks full.
     
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  8. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    I've never heard of conditioner voiding warranty either. Really though unless it can be proved that the fuel additive or conditioner directly caused an engine failure, they have absolutely no grounds for voiding a warranty.
     
  9. Fatmando

    Fatmando Medium Load Member

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    Meh. They don't really need grounds. They just say "nope - we won't pay", and it's up to you to fight them over it... which usually means suing them, and taking time off from driving, to sue. They drag their feet, you lose revenue and contracts fighting them, and hemmorage attorney fees and court costs, and eventually they settle with you for a pittance.

    C'mon, how long do you have to be in the game, before realizing that it's rigged? Promises (such as warrantees) means nothing, which is why the bank, your mechanic, your carrier, and the DoT won't just take your word on anything, either.
     
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  10. 59MackB61

    59MackB61 Light Load Member

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    Unless you operate in extreme temps that require a fuel heater my opinion is additional anti gel conditioning is a waste of money if you buy fuel from a reputable supplier it is already winterized.

    If you like adding fuel injector cleaner that's up to you but products for anti gel is a waste. I am in Missouri and the pumps have the sticker since October that the fuel is winterized and good to -20. Remember that fuel circulation generates heat while the truck is running so I am sure as long as the truck is running you could go below the -20 easily.

    To reduce mosture in the tanks keep them full but like mentioned before it is the swing in temperature that causes that.
     
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  11. Fatmando

    Fatmando Medium Load Member

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    Are you suggesting that we idle, temperatures below -20? But... but... The Environment! Global warming! You're keeping your truck alive at the expense of the Alaskan Ice Mollusks!

    Seriously, the reason for idling at that temperature should be the welfare of the driver, not the truck. But - however under-enforced, we do have laws against idling, that do not always take weather conditions into account. I'don't hate to be the cop who has to go outside in -20 conditions, to write tickets enforcing it, but the laws were written and passed in heated buildings, so... there's that... :p
     
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