Anyone run a truck with an egr delete?

It is against the forum rules to discuss modifying emission systems unfortunately.

All I will say is there are a ton of hacks out there doing that stuff and you may end up opening a huge can of worms.

 

Because a state and even the feds can fine you, put it out of service and have you put it all back together.

Plus, dealers and shops are on the hook if they work on it and do not put it back to the original.

 

Don't get me wrong, EGR is absolutely terrible for an engine. I've just seen a few hack jobs that cause problems.

 

Lot of shops won't touch a truck that's been deleted

 

The vast majority will. Move shops would be Out of business if they didn’t. More deleted trucks on the road than non-deleted. Just look at the stacks.

 

Just wait till you have a serious breakdown in middle of now nowhere and are told this has to go to dealership to be fixed.

Even better when your cpu thats been programmed for the delete goes bad and truck can no longer run.

Running something deleted long term is a gamble. Then again so is running an out of warranty emissions truck just in a different way.

 

A properly done delete wont even show at the stack in many cases now. Just saying. Hell most wont even smoke AT ALL and can ALMOST pass an emissions test (it will fail on nox though or be labled as "out of spec needs repairs" at best) if certain elements arent altered.

That said deleteing an engine is dumb, While i wont knock anyone for doing it as a last cast of the dice when you back is against the wall.....Well sure it will buy you time if your back is against that wall, and it can and in many cases especially if done CORRECTLY will improve your uptime and reduce your overhead a lot......that assumes its done correctly.

Even then is just passing the buck. It restricts you from many states. Some of which will fine the everloving hell out of you if caught. Many shops wont touch it even if there are plenty that will. Many may even turn you in for a reward or head pat from the powers that be.

Some ######## will intentionally flash your ECM and undo the delete then hold your rig hostage or to cost you money just because they are infact ########. Some on this very fourm have bragged about doing just that.

When rebuild time comes around all i can say is good luck. Even a properly done delete will alter a great many parts on the engine that when correctly rebuilt may be put back to "correct" and if you want to trade in or sell your rig....you cant in many cases. And even selling 3rd party is risky. You can advertise it and the agencys can and will come knocking. A private 3rd party can BS you about not careing its deleted and buy it for a song and dance only to turn around and call any number of 3rd partys and leave you legally and financially liable to repair it and/or to give the money back. Upto and including the cost of a new engine and emissions system.

Further some scrapyards will even check if the unit has been deleted after the fact and turn you in if you just scrap it. If its financed and it gets repoed or inspected the bank can and WILL come after you for the cost of repairs. And thats only a minor subset of issues.

Sure there ARE legal ways to repower a rig to a pre emissions engine. And yes they are infact LEGAL. Most of those routes cost an alarming amount of money and time to do. Hell even in my own state which has an established procedure to do so and even gives you a new vin at the end. It costs about $10,000 in fees, likely almost as much to tow the #### thing to the inspection facilitys. And around 6 to 12 weeks of processing time to get the inspections done. All while absolutely destroying any and all resale value OF that truck in 9 cases out of 10. And STILL locks you out of many states that require your emissions to be to current code (pooinstreethoboneedledrugistanianfornia) and sieze it at the border.

And this all discounts what happens if someone does a bubbah or javiers back yard level job and botches it. If done incorrectly a modded engine will basically be on a timer till it explodes or you will be spending tens of thousands in parts trying to stay ahead of the engine coming apart.

Its just not worth modding an engine. And again i wont knock anyone who does what they gotta do. But i will not and can not encourage or condone it. Trust me when i say....unless you were planning on keeping that truck forever and doing all the red tape. It is a disaster even if it works out perfectly.

If your going to delete a better option is to either find old iron, a glider or buy a crap pile, go to a state that has a process to make it to a custom vehicle or whatever the process is to repower it legally and get a new vin and do that. Otherwise your setting aside the can or worms only to open up a bigger can with man eating aliens instead.