Are there any good OTR companies out there? "Really"

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  1. billsgirl

    billsgirl Light Load Member

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    I am somewhat new to the trucking industry. I have had the pleasure of working for two (LOL) OTR companies in the past year. The reason that I chose both those companies is I was told the income was "make UP TO 36,000-46,000 a year first year drivers" I was even told that in the school I graduated from by a trainer, how he put two kids through college, bought a house, made 80,000 a year. But in hindsight, I was not listening very well. He was an O/O with a few trucks on the road. Now I understand that UP TO is the loop hole all the major companies use to draw you in. After being out on the road, I understand that you need at least 3100 miles a week consistently to come anywhere near earning that kind of money. Driving 3100 miles a week with deliveries, delays in dispatch, weather, traffic, etc... driving that kind of mileage SAFELY and LEGALLY is an oxymoron. I mean not logging your miles with your calculator. I hear people talking about whiners on this website quite a bit. I am wondering why a person would be considered a whiner for complaining about crummy pay and being taken advantage of. Most of these companies' pay tops out at .39-.42 cpm after 10 years of service. Right now for 3000 miles at .42 cpm is 1250 a week. In 10 yrs I can look forward to making 1250 a week and in 10 yrs what is 1250 a week really going to be worth? I could be mistaken, but I was told that the mileage pay hasn't really changed since the 80's and as far as the economy everyone knows that there are certain products that need to move because they are essentials. It seems to me the days where a business owner takes pride in providing a good stable living/health ins, etc.. are over with. The reason the economy is so bad right now is a lot of these companies are making products/they expect your middle income/working class to buy but are blind to the fact that their own employees don't make enough money to afford the products they sell. I say we get together and vote our selves a pay raise just like Congress/Senate does every year or two. This is from Bill the driver/mover
     
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  3. trips74

    trips74 Light Load Member

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    Unfortunately no there are no real otr companies out there. And yeah if only it was that simple to vote for a pay raise. I continuly ask myself why I do this, Ive been trucking for about ten years and not much has changed industry wise. I believe you have too find what makes you happy and stick with it. Just remember it cost a lot of money too operate a truck and that is why the driver gets so little in my opion. Good luck in your search.
     
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  4. jash369

    jash369 Medium Load Member

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    Alot said, I would like to add a view if I may..............

    As you mentioned in most cases people will tell you the truth about the situations if you are listening. Considering when people are in the situations they are in due to the economy, home lives, etc. they only listen to what they want to hear. Stress, families and money cause short sightedness in the average person.

    When the majority of people that look into and get into trucking it is usually (majority) due to displacement of their current carrers. The time for proper searching with solid information to make a rational decission they probably wouldn't make that leap.

    I feel alot of people whine for this reason, when the information is provided and someone does not listen or only hears what they want to hear it is their own fault. Now what comes into play is when these people are lied too by a recruiter, etc. That is when again they did not attempt to get the needed information to make a reasonable rational decission with some solid knolwedge.

    As you mentioned and pointed out based on 3k miles # .42cpm it is only 1250........that is correct but the people who are listening or making uninformed decissions do not understand or realize that a solo driver can legally only drive 3,500-3,700 miles per week. They do not understand DOT reg.'s etc. So under their stresses they take that number and just run what you can do in a personal car and then the numbers seem to work.

    Then reality sets in..........sad but true..........short of being lied to the information is given but it is the individuals own due diligence to make an informed decission.

    The key is, make an informed decission........that's it.

    I work for what alot of people call and consider a horrible company, but even after my contract ended back in the spring I am still here going on 2 years and it is working for me and I am relatively happy and it works for my needs. I make Good money regularly and even with things slowing down still doing well. I have a good relationship with my dispatcher and get students trained and even fail the ones I do not feel are safe drivers.

    Without going on and on I will touch on one other point.............pay
    As long as their is an excess of people willing to work then their are jobs to give, you will not see an significant pay increases. But then this whole conversation comes down to that. If it is not or an individual is not happy with the circumstances then they can find another job.

    Yes we give so much for what we get, bt we don't have too..........No one is forcing anyone to drive, just as in any other situation.

    We all have a choice....................


    Happy Holidays..............and Be careful out there........:biggrin_25519:
     
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  5. 074344

    074344 Road Train Member

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    To answer your question, I'm sorry to say, I don't think so. At least if you take the 99% of the companies dicussed on this site. Granted, there are a handful drivers who are successful at all companies but they pay the price as well. That price comes in all forms but most notably in being away from home for weeks/months at a time.

    For those that are single, that might be OK. For those that are married or have a family, that is no way to make a living.

    Companies tout how much they pay their drivers in terms of "cents per mile". That is all well and good if the miles are there. If not, then where do you stand? $.50 a mile is good but $.50 at 500 miles a week doesn't cut it.

    The worst part of mileage is the fact that companies don't even pay for all the miles you drive. There have been arguments back and forth on this issue but the fact still remains that if the driver drives for 2000 odometer miles, they should be paid for 2000 miles, not 1800 or whatever the practical miles chart shows.

    Another thing that really bothers me is delay time. A lot of people will have you believe that your delay time is built into your mileage pay. It's not! Mileage pay is just that, for mileage. I firmly believe that you should be compensated in some fashion when on duty. You only have 14 hours to work in a day. Sometimes less than that.

    This includes waiting to load or unload. Why in the world would people find it acceptable to sit, while on duty, in the service of their company and not be paid for it? For any length of time? Your time, like mine, is worth something. The company does not do anything for free, why should you?

    Dinner is ready. I will add more tomorrow after work.

    Drive safe
     
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  6. Markk9

    Markk9 "On your mark"

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    You are not paid by the mile, you are paid by the trip. Based on the miles the book or computer shows. You are doing piece work.

    Mark
     
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  7. knighton5

    knighton5 Heavy Load Member

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    There are good companies, just finding the one that matches your needs can take time and homework. If Trucking is for you and its in your blood (so to speak) then continue asking questions out on the road and at truck stops, you will eventualy find a good company.
    :biggrin_25525:Good Luck
     
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  8. bangngears

    bangngears Medium Load Member

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    wow learn how to do it. If i go to a shipper and i have to wait 6 hours to load then i go in the sleeper and split log it and dont loose the hours i take the 2 hours more and only have to take a 2 hour break along the line to get more hours. NOWAY am i sitting over an hour and showing it on duty. That is what that sleeper is for.
     
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  9. billsgirl

    billsgirl Light Load Member

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    You are exactly the truck driver I am talking about. If you really think about it, who does the split sleeper benefit?? You get crummy sleep, after driving an 11 hour shift just so that company's product gets there on time and they don't have to pay late delivery fees. Im sure you have thousands of bonus miles for going out of your way for your company. By the way, careful with those split sleeper breaks, they cause fatalities. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz at the wheel.
     
  10. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    Those split sleeper breaks don't cause fatalities. Is that 2 hours going to make that much of a difference? If that 2 hours is going to make that much of a difference to a person, sounds like they don't belong in the industry.
     
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  11. Thumper

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    I for one agree with bangngears if you log to much on line 4 your costing yourself money.
    The logbook is your paycheck you will need to learn to play with the crayons to make the most you can and be legal.
    Myself I get plenty of sleep to much sleep and never sleep 10 hours after waiting for a load you sleep while waiting so when its ready you can go.
    Trucking is a life style
     
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