Arrow Trucking (Tulsa, OK)

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  1. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Problem is that they did not violate any law, so residing in jail is just a pipe dream.
     
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  3. jr2nott

    jr2nott Bobtail Member

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    Well they could have violated some laws. If you know you about to lose everything it is illegal to sit in the corner and not say a word to your employees! But that has to be proven first!
     
  4. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Sorry, no such law exist.

    It is a moral issue, but not a law.
     
  5. JohnBoy

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    I don't know how you got this information, but if it's true this shows you how to take care of business the right way, not Arrows way. Granted these trucks belong to the leasing company, in this case Navistar Financial, so in the long run this will be cost effective for them to work with the drivers and get them home. Good for you Navistar, with this move I now have renewed faith in big business!!!!! One last thing, I always heard my Mom say "God don't like ugly", are you listening Arrow?
     
  6. Bad Influence

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    It is against the law... Federal WARN act which requires them to give staff two months notice. Also, they stand to get sued with an abundance of class-action suits. It really sucks in the long run, for the drivers and employees. I will say this my 4 yrs spent with them allowed me the opportunity to get my first truck through there L/P program and the did always treat me more than far. But, that was my experience.
     
  7. JohnBoy

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    Here is something that will keep the WARN Act from being used in Arrows case;


    There are three (3) exceptions to the full 60-day notice requirement, however, the notice must be provided as soon as practicable, even when these exceptions apply, and the employer must provide a statement of the reason for shortening the notice requirement in addition to fulfilling other notice information requirements. These three exceptions are:
    • Faltering company: When, before a plant closing, a company is actively seeking capital or business and reasonably, in good faith, believes that advance notice would preclude its ability to obtain such capital or business, and this new capital or business would allow the employer to avoid or postpone the shutdown for a reasonable period;
    • Unforeseeable business circumstances: When the closing or mass layoff is caused by business circumstances that were not reasonably foreseeable at the time that the 60-day notice would have been required (i.e. a business circumstance caused by some sudden, dramatic, and unexpected action(s) or condition(s) beyond the employer's control, such as a major order's unexpected cancellation); or
     
  8. hlaird

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    Well I don't work for Arrow but I'd know what I'd be doing right now if I lived anywhere near Tulsa...

    The truth is no one will go to jail or pay any fines for this. They just get away with it in this country. Yes you will go to jail for stealing a loaf of bread of smoking a plant but businesses aren't responsible for anything they do.

    Come on, it's time to wake up to the fact of how corrupt and backwards this country is. Every year this country functions more like a 3rd world nation that a civilized society. And the people hurt by it the most are totally in denial about and waving their flags all the time. I'm not saying this country is bad. I'm saying the GOVERNMENT is corrupt and evil and doesn't give a #### about you. So stop being ignorant about and in case you haven't noticed Obama hasn't changed anything for the better. He's just like Bush. Educated yourselves and you children so maybe the next generation can start repairing the damage this generation has caused.
     
  9. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    I have read the act before.

    The exception in this case is listed in the act.



    The exceptions to 60-day notice are:


    (1) Faltering company. This exception, to be narrowly construed, covers situations where a company has sought new capital or business in order to stay open and where giving notice would ruin the opportunity to get the new capital or business, and applies only to plant closings;

    (2) unforeseeable business circumstances. This exception applies to closings and layoffs that are caused by business circumstances that were not reasonably foreseeable at the time notice would otherwise have been required; and
     
  10. Bad Influence

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    I didn't say the law would work, all I said was there was a law. Can't blame the country for each individual business. These are personal choices by the owners of a faulty corporation, not the country. If you are depending on the government to help you, you are already in trouble. Ronald Regan said "The 9 scariest words an American can ever hear is I'm from the government and I'm here to help."Depend on yourselves, not the government. Technically it's not the governments problem. If we get the government involved on everything, then we become socialist. My advice, Be Prepared and Be Responsible.
     
  11. Roadmedic

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    There is no law that is subject in this case.

    That law is mainly for plant closings and such.

    However, I really wonder how long they might have suspected they would falter. If that can ever be found, then the law would be appropriate.
     
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