Automatic will not go into gear during test

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Joe3301955, Oct 30, 2011.

  1. jgremlin

    jgremlin Heavy Load Member

    Apr 21, 2010
    SW Michigan
    It should be noted that not all automatic transmissions are the same. And therefore, this is something that does not necessarily apply to all automatics, just that particular automatic. Do you know the make/model of the transmission you're working with.

    FWIW the truck I've been driving lately has an Eaton Fuller Ultrashift in it. The only quirks I've encountered as far as getting it into gear goes are that you need to leave it in neutral for a few seconds after engine start before you try to shift into a gear. And then you need to hold the service brake while making your initial gear selection. If you don't hold the service brake and/or try to shift into gear too soon after engine start, it will just sit in neutral and beep at you until you push the neutral button i.e. cancel your gear selection, then hold the service brake and make your gear selection again.

    After that initial gear selection, you can switch between forward and reverse at will without holding the service brake or even being stopped completely. However once selected, the shift will not be executed until the truck speed drops below 2mph IIRC.
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  3. Eaton18

    Eaton18 Road Train Member

    Sep 3, 2011
    Waverly, KS
    Not sure if it's an Eaton-Fuller. By your description it sounds similar though. The tractor is a KW T2000. Yes you need to have the service brake applied and the clutch. It's one of the auto-shifts, where you can place it in manual, and push up/down buttons on the side of the shift lever to manually select your gear.
  4. striker

    striker Road Train Member

    Aug 8, 2009
    Denver, Co
    ok,. your driving an autoshift, and from the sounds of it, the X/Y motors are worn out and need replaced.

    As for this other claim that if you test in automatic............... Again this depends on the state, the examiner and the situation. Colorado claims to have this restriction, but they only enforce it for Class B. IF you take your test through and accredited school and test through that school, there no restriction placed regardless of what type of transmission. If you test on a company truck and use it during your testing, they may or may not, it depends on the situation.
  5. Colorato

    Colorato Road Train Member

    Feb 22, 2011
    The restriction varies state to state. Couldn't tell which is which but in Indiana you WILL get a E restriction on your CDL.

    These restrictions are in addition to any driver's license restrictions and are added to a driver's commercial driver's license based on the driver passing the required commercial driver's license knowledge exams or skills tests. The following is a list of restrictions that may be added to a commercial driver's license:

    • E - Automatic transmission
    • K - Intrastate (driving in Indiana) only
    • L - Vehicle without air brakes
    • P - Class C public passenger
    • Q - Bus only
    • S - No semi
    • T - Hazmat prohibited
    • O- Class B passenger vehicle
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  6. 66truck

    66truck Light Load Member

    Nov 7, 2008

    Sounds like the school is taking the easy way out on backing training, I don,t see how that could be in the best interest of the students IMO.
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  7. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

    Feb 13, 2011
    Wherever I park
    I don't either. If you train on a manual, back with a manual. Backing with a manual isn't that hard. You need to learn how to manage the clutch brake sooner or later.
  8. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

    Feb 13, 2011
    Wherever I park
    Florida will place a automatic restriction on your CDL as well. It doesn't matter how much experience with a manual you have. Take a road test in a automatic and your CDL will be restricted to automatics.
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  9. zaptear

    zaptear Medium Load Member

    Nov 30, 2010
    it is this way in vermont as well need to take the test with a manual.. but it dont matter when i got my B 11 years ago. with a auto. but at that time thare was no restrictions for this and i was grandfothered. but with my class A and school bus.. driveing test i was able to take it with a auto and keep it with out the restrictions
  10. gearjammer-2000

    gearjammer-2000 <strong>Clutch User</strong>

    Dec 18, 2007
    columbus Ohio
    sounds like the clutch brake need adjusted, try pushing the clutch HARD to the floor and hold it there for a bit do not let the truck creep even a bit the tranny has to be completely stopped. another thing which you will find out about sooner or later is if you accidentally shut the truck down in gear you will not be able to restart it,the fix is to disconnect the battery for a minute or two to reset the computer
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  11. CenutryClass

    CenutryClass Road Train Member

    Feb 15, 2006

    Not true, as the cheap CDL school I went to in Hialeah back in 2007 had me road test in an auto, and I had no such restriciton on my license, unless the law changed since then which is quite pissible
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