Axle weight limits on 4 axles (theory)

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  1. qaaya

    qaaya Bobtail Member

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    Looking for some help understanding weight limits in theory. I'm just asking theoretically here so I'm not really interested in 'just run five axles' kinda responses please, I know this isn't practical.

    Theoretically, you have a four axle semi truck, a single-drive tractor and a tandem trailer. Your overall weight limit is 66,000lbs, 12K steer, 20K drive, 34K tandem trailer. You are running non-divisible loads. In this situation, are there ways that you could run over 20K on the drive and over 12K on the steer?

    As an example, if you have axles and tires on the tractor rated above 12K and above 20K as specced by the axle/tire manufacturer, the kind of stuff the heavy haul guys run, 40K drives, 14K steers etc. could you in theory permit to go over 20K on the drive for a non-divisible load?

    Thanks for any help.

    Edit: this is running interstate not state roads.
     
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  3. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Put a 20k lb steer axle in the truck?

    Spread axles on the trailer?
     
  4. qaaya

    qaaya Bobtail Member

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    Good point.

    What if you didn't have spread axles on the trailer?
     
  5. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I'm gonna take a stab at this and I welcome any corrections.

    When I registered my truck in Louisiana, the DMV asked me how much I wanted to register it at. I said ; "Huh?" She said you can register it for a different weight. Hum, ok register it for 3,000 over. I am assuming I had to pay extra taxes for an over weight registration. I was checked quite a few times at scales, roadsides etc & never questioned about it.
    The reason I did it off the cuff and caught by suprise, just quick thinking, I knew what I was allowed based on the truck & trailer and that's what I was going to go by. I figured if I happen to be over somewhere somehow, I have an extra 3000 to cover it.

    I'm not sure and I've never discussed it but again, mine was registered on the registration for 3000 over the vehicle stickers. Again, I am assuming I paid more for that but I didn't know the difference.

    I dont know if it differentiated on axle weight, but I am assuming it was gross weight. ???

    Again, I dont know so I welcome any corrections. (Louisiana registration)
     
  6. North Pole Nightmare

    North Pole Nightmare Heavy Load Member

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    Ours were 42 k max on the drives,4 axle tractor ,2 drives and 1 pusher axle.This was not on an interstate though,highways in Alaska.But that's what we could do for the bridge laws.
    16 axles and 162,000 gvw.
    Rand Mcnally book would probably have good information.
     
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    North Pole Nightmare Heavy Load Member

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    20k steer axle,we were always about 14.5k on the steers.
     
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  8. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    Registering over does get you around any "over gross" citations, but not "over axle" citations. Other than heavier steer and a spread, the only legal way I;'m aware of is individual overweight permits where issued.
     
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  9. Ex-Trucker Alex

    Ex-Trucker Alex Road Train Member

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    Many states permit steer loads greater than 12k, depending on the tire width. European trucks have several width standards; 295mm through 495mm, with around 325mm being standard. Last time I checked, or common 295mm US steers would allow you 14k in many states.

    As for the trailer axles, if the spread distance between them is increased, you can haul a heavier load. With a 10' spread, you can haul 20k on each. Or with close-spread tridem, you could haul 46k total.
     
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