Bruce Oakley Trucking (Bulk)

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by Lug-Nut, Feb 8, 2015.

  1. BKLusk64

    BKLusk64 Light Load Member

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    I was told on tanks they want you to be 20,000 lbs or less. I think the tanks are around 12,000 give or take.
     
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  3. Fewe

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    No passport and no desire to go to Canada ruled out tank and a W-900 ruled out hopper...
     
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  4. hellpatrol

    hellpatrol Light Load Member

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    With how much fuel?
    I was always playing with fuel with my flat top. Ran out one time( stupid on my part). I'm 1820 #s between empty and full. If needed I'll take all my junk out get weighed and play the game.I will take the advice and get her weighed.
     
  5. hellpatrol

    hellpatrol Light Load Member

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    So Canada is required with tank? The recruiter told you that? What is the evil with Canada??
     
  6. Fewe

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    A passport and willingness to run Canada is required for tank. Running frac sand may be exempt from the passport requirement, I'm not sure. No particular evil to Canada, I just have never had any desire to go. Miss Wendy handles the permits, and from what other drivers have told me she does a fantastic job. Getting back into the US can be aggravating from what I've heard. Also, no firearms can be brought into Canada, at least not without a lot of paperwork, and checking them in a truck stop locker doesn't interest me at all. Go in one port of entry and come out another and spend the next 3 weeks trying to get back to get them only to be headed back into Canada...
     
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  7. hellpatrol

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    I see your point. The one bad point about tank is the wait time, if they can't hold you. Or if they have multiple loads coming in and you have an appointment time, etc...
    I would watch the dumps come in, drop their load, off again. The extra money for tank isn't worth it when you sit, if you sit due to those reasons stated. Due you do better miles than tanK? I would imagine so, all things being equal.
     
  8. terryt

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    Tank wash out is another time killer and they take longer in the winter cause they have to be dry out by heated air. Plus you might have to drive a 100 miles or more to find a tank wash they pay the miles but it all take time. Plus and hour or more to blow off. A lot of customers have set apportionment time to unload to like a 2 hour window. Can say end dump is a better choice a lot less messing around no plug ups which are a real mess to deal with.
     
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  9. Dynames

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    I've been doing tanks here a year now, so I'm still far from an expert but I've been around the block here now.

    Weight of tractor: Keep it under 22500 as most of the tanks are 10500 to 11500. They want you to be able to net 23 tons on average. There are loads we cube out before being up on weight, but you'll be told of those beforehand,

    Canada: YES, we run Canada. If you don't want to or can't, don't bother signing up. We also run into NYC. And they'll try to smooth it over as "Oh yeah it's not down in town" but the two times I've been has been in Brooklyn and Queens.

    As far as unloading times, it depends on the location, the product, the condition of your blower and trailer etc etc. No two trucks or trailers unload the same. Most places and products take 2 hours to unload. Some take 30 minutes, some take 30 hours. You're paid when you sit #### near all the time as long as you turn in a demurrage sheet. I can count on one hand how many times I've been somewhere over 4 hours and didn't get paid. I tell them I don't go back unless I get paid from the last time.

    Washouts: We can washout anywhere the hoppers or end dumps washout. However, up in the northeast, washouts are fewer and farther in between and you will typically have to hit a tank washout. Which those are a story unto themselves.

    For the past year, I've averaged 2300 miles a week at 1.58 a rolling mile gross. That's just what Oakley has paid me by miles I've put on. I've been off a total of 4 weeks so far this year, 7 since I'm sitting until after New Year's and that mileage includes those weeks. Most weeks are 2800 miles when I'm actually running. My gross is right at 200k. Next year I'm shooting for 250k. My weekly net is between 2300 to 3200 bucks. And I run a W9 with a thirsty twin turbo CAT.

    There's three things to remember with tanks: Don't force or rush when unloading to avoid plugs, stay on top of trailer maintenance and when you're moving keep the left door shut.
     
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  10. hellpatrol

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    Thank you very much for the info. It's EXACTLY what I've been looking for.
    You mentioned Canada, what is a typical run through there? I'm not against it, just want to know what a to expect. Also, I live right next to NYC, so I imagine that I'll be getting some. My question is what kind of places did you go to ? Job site, plants or something else? What I do now gets me roughly low 2,000's a week, but the writing is on the wall that things are gonna go south, soon.
    How do you find where the washouts are?
    My biggest complaint of where I'm at is I can;t get time off. I have to run every night. Yeah I'm home every day( work nights), but I can't take time off, especially this time of year. I have to play summer camp games when I get my son because I'm sleeping during the day. I don't get quality time with him when I have him due to this job. I have to work 6 days a week this time of year, Having the time off with him is a huge part of moving on.
    When you pump off is there anything at the end of the hose? Like a filter or anything else that will contribute to plugging? When I pulled flour they had a filter at the back of the pipe on the trailer that looked like a honeycomb. It was really bad for plugging. The it had to go through a box that had a magnet on it to get any ferrous metals.Cement didn't have any of that and was much better to run. I have experience pulling cement, fly ash and flour.
    I'm, leaning to bulk just because I have experience with it and I want to put a apu on the truck and I don;t want the big hydraulic tank on the back of the truck.
     
  11. Dynames

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    Being that your near NYC, a typical Canada run is going up into Ontario from a lot of different places in the states, near Toronto, then unload and bounce out or bounce over towards Montreal and load up for the southern states.

    The NYC runs go to cement plants.

    Oakley has a network of washouts. 9/10 they have an account wherever they say to go. If not, they let you know so you can mark it on the trip sheet for reimbursement. They will find washouts for you until you get a good knowledge of what is on your way.

    Filtered blowoffs are rare. Usually when we haul spent catalyst or flyash to a concrete factory we have a filter that the customer provides. Some refineries want it for catalyst loads. Usually just when getting spent catalyst or flyash you can count in having a filter at the consignee.

    Home time is about what you want to make of it. Two weeks out and a weekend at home is standard. I typically roll for 3.5 weeks and go home for 5 days.

    Like anywhere else, it is what you make of it.
     
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