Buying a higher mileage emission motor?

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  1. Thetrashnoob

    Thetrashnoob Light Load Member

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    I’m on my hunt for a day cab, and it seems it’s either 800k plus mile pre emission trucks with no engine history or emission trucks with 3-500k on them. Looking for input on the 2 below

    2013 peterbilt 389 Cummins 500hp.
    400k miles. Seller says the head gasket was just done and the dpf has been cleaned.

    2013 Mack ch 505hp mp8
    430k miles. Nothing has been done to motor or emissions systems.

    With the budget I have, and the specs I am requiring the options are pretty limited. Either high mileage pre emission trucks with no engine history, or newer trucks but higher miles.

    anyone have any input/thoughts?
     
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  3. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    Neither. If they said the emissions system has been done, unless it has a warranty. They lied. They likely did a regen and called it good. Also whats your budget, we may be able to point you to a better unit.

    As for a used rig. If you buy a used emissions rig. Your just add the cost of dropping the entire emissions system, having it cleaned, new doser, having the egr pulled and cleaned, the high pressure line pulled and cleaned a def flush and new filter, new lines and all new clamps and gaskets to the price (about 10k) or dont even bother. With an ISX, get a warranty or dont do it. Injectors like to go pop around 500k and they are around 7K EACH to do individually and around 12-15K to do all at once with cups.

    They are good motors from my sofar limited experince but they do have a list of known issues.
     
  4. Sons Hero

    Sons Hero Road Train Member

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    Definitely the Peterbilt, if I had to pick between the two. Anyone will work on a Paccar product, Mack, if it’s anything electrical, it’s going to the dealer. Peterbilt will ride, and handle better as well. Build quality is superior to Mack. And yes, I’ve run both. My ‘93 Pete was better than that brand new Mack was. As far as emissions, if it’s a day cab, it likely stays reasonably local, I’d run it until the emissions cause a problem, then fix them permanently. How many hours on the engine? I just bought a truck with an ISX several weeks ago, it’s my first Cummins, so I don’t profess to be an authority on them, talked to my local mechanic, and he said they are as good as anything else produced in the last 15 years. He said in his opinion, 35-40k hours is where they like to grenade.
     
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  5. 201

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    Since neither is a charm, I'd go with the Pete strictly for resale. 389s are awesome trucks. You are gravitating towards trucks that don't really classify as "old", its just, 400K is normally when the bottom falls out, and a complete major is usually next. Remember, day cabs are usually a lot more worn than OTR trucks. While they may have lower overall mileage, they endure the rigors of daily P&D, and I'd almost rather find a decent OTR truck and use it. Then, if the local goes bust, or mom gets upset, you have a sleeper already. I've taken sleeper trucks just about every place I took a day cab. Low mileage trucks don't exist, and if you are buying something used, get used to the fact, it's going to be USED! Sadly, if "budget" is an issue, you are setting yourself up for failure.
     
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  6. Thetrashnoob

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    the Cummins is local, I know the company that owns it, they take care of their stuff, only getting rid of it because they can’t find drivers for the manual.
    It has 11k hours on it, the dpf has been taken out and cleaned as well. It’s not a forever truck, but if I could get 200k out of it I’d be happy.
     
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  7. Thetrashnoob

    Thetrashnoob Light Load Member

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    Unfortunately a sleeper truck won’t work for my application. Budget is a factor obviously,
     
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  8. Thetrashnoob

    Thetrashnoob Light Load Member

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    I know the company selling the truck, so I know they aren’t lying about the dpf being cleaned… but I know 5-600k is usually when emission motors start have issues so they are sold off. Not the case for this truck as they are just updating the fleet. And I know any used truck is a gamble, just looking to see what kind of experience people have with the higher mileage trucks.
     
  9. Sons Hero

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    I have one truck with 2 million miles on it, been overhauled 3 times. Twice was me. The biggest thing is, don’t go cheap when you do need to overhaul it. I did the first time, was a dumb mistake. Keep up on your maintenance, oil changes etc, and I think that truck will serve you well for many years
     
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  10. Thetrashnoob

    Thetrashnoob Light Load Member

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    What year is the truck you have 2 million miles on?
     
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  11. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

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    Just remember, there's a reason they're selling it.
     
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