Can a company allocate more work than is possible?

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  1. Nige123

    Nige123 Bobtail Member

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    Hi all, first post on this forum. I'm looking for some guidance on an issue I have.

    I drive a bin lorry using a a tacho on domestic hours. For about 4 months now I have have been working this run. I have 2 loaders making us a 3 man crew. We do a set run so the route is the same all the time.

    It takes 3 men 9 hours to complete the days work. The company have now said we are going to have to do the run as a 2 man crew. It seems to me if it takes 3 men 9 hours it will take 2 men 12 hours minimum. I worked that out on the basis of 3 hours per man.

    The company has also now said overtime is compulsory.
    It seems to me just because they take a man off the crew they can't call it overtime. Surely if my truck breaks down and I do an hour's extra work that's overtime.

    Overtime is not a transport planner routing more work than is possible to complete in one day. It seems on demestic hours I can only have a tacho in for 11 hours anyway.
    We were told our working hours are be 0615 to 1515.

    Anyway the question is am I right in saying no. I'm planing on bringing my truck back to the depot at the same time as always so I can clock out at 1515 I'm happy to work as a 2 man crew so long as I'm not expected to do the work of 3 men

    Surely the company is under some legal requirement not to issue more work than is possible.

    Thanks
     
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  3. GoneButNotForgotten

    GoneButNotForgotten Heavy Load Member

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    You are asking about a "legal requirement". In what country are you doing this work?
     
  4. m16ty

    m16ty Road Train Member

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    As far as I know they can make mandatory overtime, as long as they pay you overtime pay and it doesn’t contradict your hours of service on your logs.

    According to your logs you are allowed to be on-duty for 14 hours (or even longer if you don’t drive after 14 hours). If you are getting paid by the hour, your overtime would start after you accumulated 40 hours for the week, according to labor laws.
     
  5. Mattflat362

    Mattflat362 Road Train Member

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    Sounds like when "they" tried to add payroll to the controller position of someone I know.

    She was like do it and see what happens. They backed off. She stayed.
     
  6. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    A lot of labor rules are state based, not just Federal, so that makes it hard to answer.

    First, however, are you paid by the hour, by the mile, or by the load?

    If you are paid by the mile or load, you'll work longer for the same pay. A no-go proposition: walk and get another job.

    If paid by the hour, and getting more work and overtime is something you think is a good thing, keep going, otherwise walk and get another job.

    This really isn't hard in today's labor market.
     
  7. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Based on this terminology, it looks like he's in the UK.

    A "bin Lorry" is a garbage truck.

    I seriously doubt anyone here can even remotely answer this question for him.
     
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  8. Nige123

    Nige123 Bobtail Member

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    England UK
     
  9. Nige123

    Nige123 Bobtail Member

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    Hi, my understanding of domestic hours rules for England UK are that we can only have a tacho in the head for 11 hours
     
  10. Nige123

    Nige123 Bobtail Member

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    Lol, quite right I simply picked 2 forums to ask my question. I am in the UK working under domestic hours rule.
     
  11. Nige123

    Nige123 Bobtail Member

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    This is exactly my attitude, I know that I'm right, just trying to find confirmation some where.
     
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