Can we Save this Industry?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by acw, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. CEN03

    CEN03 Bobtail Member

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    Rich Americans want to stay rich or become richer out sourcing is cheaper. If gov don't stop it no one can.
     
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  3. Ronnocomot

    Ronnocomot Road Train Member

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    What gives the government the right to tell a company how they can do business? If the company is not breaking the law, the government should stay out of it.

    Is outsourcing illegal? no.
    Are companies required to have their operations where the government thinks they should be? no.

    Free markets don't work that way. sorry.
     
  4. Raafi

    Raafi Light Load Member

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    that capitalist mantra will go down with the ship as did those die hard communists who stuck to communism as russia was falling

    you cannot have certain things that are the lifeblood of a society in the hands of private industry, electricity, health needs, oil, education

    these items are NOT for private use and profit, but benefit the society as a whole, thus to put them in the hands of private people, as if it is a radio or a pair of pants, puts that society at the mercy of these same people

    capitalism has its positive and negative points, as does socialism, communism and a host of other ideologies, you keep chanting its edicts as if they are the holy grail, they are not

    they are mans opinion of how things should go, and as everything else of man, it has its flaws

    i am all for free market, free enterprise, but we are being choked to death and we are still holding on to these ideologies as its killing us
     
  5. Raafi

    Raafi Light Load Member

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    and regarding this industry

    what is bad is that these guys are changing laws for their benefit, so when you discuss changing the law, a law can be changed with the stroke of a pen, and some dollars to buy it, which inherently make the whole system up for sale, thus countering whatever benefit you think is achieved by your ideal free market enterprise

    the government, laws and corporations are evolving into one in the same, so you cant just say, its not like they are breaking any laws, these corporations are MAKING their own laws, and have these lobbyists, ie ATA there at their disposal for influencing laws that are made in their favor

    its not like the big corporate trucking companies are squaring off with the independents, they are actually trying to neuter the effect of the independents by having a law passed to slow down their vehicles

    now tell me why CREngland cares how fast joe blow drives his truck? because CREngland wants to have an unfair advantage in the free market place by changing laws to help CREngland

    this is not free enterprise, but facism, whereby, private companies run the government...........which is what we have become anyway
     
  6. Ronnocomot

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    That capitalist mantra seems to work.
    The United States is No. 1 in economic output, called gross domestic product, amounting to $13.13 trillion in 2006. With less than 5 percent of the world's population, at about 302 million, the United States accounts, by different measures, for between 20 and 30 percent of world GDP. The GDP of just one state, California, amounting to $1.5 trillion in 2006, exceeded the GDP in all but about eight countries that year.

    Sorry comrade, but if the oil is on my land, I own it and the government does not. If you want it, buy it from me. Private education seems to do a whole lot better job than public, ditto for health care. You really want the government to have control over electricity? Does not sound very freedom loving to me.
    So, that argument is a bunch of bunk.

    What are the good parts of communism? socialism? I'd love to hear your answer. I need another laugh.
     
  7. Goat88

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    Just to be clear,

    I was not stating that ads in spanish are the problem. But when the practice is accepted (and applauded by several posters on this board) it is indicative of absolute ignorance. This ignorance is the problem, and probably will NOT be overcome.

    Also, "poor mexicans" are very much a cause for concern and outrage, when they are allowed to take our jobs and services. While we also have quite a few other problems, this is at the forefront of our demise as a nation.
     
  8. Goat88

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    I'm not sure if this was directed at me or not. But I'm a 'National Socialist'. Just so we're on the same page.
     
  9. Raafi

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    those poor mexicans are brought here by both the government and the corporations

    those poor mexicans are just like you and me, trying to provide a decent life for their family

    if you want to aim, aim at the culprit, not the poor slob in the same boat as you and i
     
  10. Raafi

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    you talk as if you are head king, reaping the benefits of this GNP,

    you arent, you are a truck driver (so i assume) you are at the bottom of the food chain, you are running to keep up, and they keep spinning the wheel faster and faster, our pace of life is at about 90mph, if you like being treated like a cog in a wheel, so you can brag about how your country is on top, you go ahead

    i am only going to be on this earth a few more years and i dont want myself, nor my children and grandchildren to live in a world where they are only thought of by their government as consumers, to be consumed, and then tossed out when they are not profitable

    capitalism is solely about the mighty dollar, period, and though it may bring much benefit in terms of technical advancements, it reduces us in the sight of governments and corporations into cash cows

    whether you realize it or not, people are suffering and whats worse, the people are suffering (like yourself) are the very ones supporting the people causing their suffering
     
  11. Ronnocomot

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    If you think you don't matter, then you don't.

    You know what happens when you assume.

    If you are not making it in our so-called flawed society, that's too bad. But don't lump me or anyone else in with you.

    We call it the pursuit of happiness for a reason.
     
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