Cat 3406E sensors calibration

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  1. 2BT

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    If a sensor such as crank,cam, or throttle position is replaced should you have them calibrated? Does it make a difference performance wise if you do or don't ?
     
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  3. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    No calibration for those. Throttle pedal on some engines needed to be calibrated by a full travel sweep when replaced, but that was a long time ago, and I can't remember which engine it was.
     
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  4. spsauerland

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    40 pins should have timing calibration done if cam timing/speed sensor replaced, 70 pin ecm not needed.
     
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  5. 2BT

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    Thank you for you input, going to have it done for sure
     
  6. Goodysnap

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    The timing reference is between the ecm and the crank sensor. The cam and crank are fall back sensors so that if one drops out the other will pick up and the engine will continue running and log a fault. The only time a calibration should be needed is if the ecm is replaced and the old is crashed or not readable to transfer the timing info. A cam/crank correlation issue would lead toward mechanical issue in the geartrain setup and most likely not electrical. Of course if the calibration is off a fault will be logged indicating so. Sensor replacement will not affect the timing calibration stored in the ecm. The app/tps sensor will be OEM supplied and also does not require calibration.
     
  7. spsauerland

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    A 40 pin ECM only has one sensor!!! Read your cat service manual. Timing may be up to three degrees until timing calibration is performed!
     
  8. spsauerland

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    I am talking about earlier 5EK engines pre 70,000 S/N's to clarify.
     
  9. spsauerland

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    Installation Of The 129-6628 Speed/Timing Sensor On 3406E Engines{1907}
    SMCS - 1907-012


    Engines:
    3406E (S/N: 5EK; 9NN; 6BR; 9WR; 4AS; 5DS; 6TS; 1LW)

    Introduction
    This Special Instruction provides instructions for the installation of the 129-6628 Speed/Timing Sensor on 3406E Engines.
    Note: This Special Instruction should only be used for 3406E Engines. The 129-6628 Speed/Timing Sensor is used on other engine models. The 3406E is the only model that uses the 126-8481 Washer .
    Do NOT perform any procedure that is outlined in this Special Instruction until the information is read and understood.
    Instructions
    Use the following procedure in order to install the engine speed/timing sensor:
      • Extend the sliphead before you install the engine speed/timing sensor.
      • Check the position of the speed/timing wheel.
        Before the sensor is installed, ensure that the speed/timing wheel is in the correct position. The sliphead should not be allowed to fill one of the slots of the speed/timing wheel. Visually inspect the area with a flashlight.
        If it is necessary, turn the crankshaft in order to rotate the speed/timing wheel so that the sliphead is not allowed to fill the slot.
        Note: If the sliphead fills one of the slots in the speed/timing wheel, the sliphead will be broken off as the speed/timing wheel begins to rotate.
      • Install the sensor in order to set the sliphead into position. Tighten the sensor to a torque of 40 ± 5 N·m (30 ± 4 lb ft).
      • Remove the sensor. Be careful not to bump the sliphead.
      • Place the 126-8481 Washer on the sensor.
      • Install the sensor and the washer. Be careful not to bump the sliphead. Tighten the sensor to a torque of 40 ± 5 N·m (30 ± 4 lb ft).
        Note: The washer will prevent the sliphead from contacting the gear.
      • Follow the proper procedure for Engine Timing in order to calibrate.
     

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  10. Hurricane69

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    The new cam sensors don't have the slip head. They are just a standard prox and require two shims.
     
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  11. GrapeApe

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    The only time I calibrate the cam/crank sensors are if I take the gear train apart or do an ECM replacement. No need for a sensor replacement only.
     
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