CDL requirements

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  1. dinglehopper

    dinglehopper Bobtail Member

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    howdy. do i need a CDL if i am not commercially running short city hauls in Seattle with a new 2018 Chevy 3500, single rear wheel, gas, regular cab, long bed, pulling a 25,000 GVW tandem dually gooseneck flatbed? the WA state DOT website isn’t great and they won’t answer the phone.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    If you do any hauling for profit (i.e. getting paid) it is commercial. Doesn't matter if you are hauling loads to Best Buy, or using it to pull your yard tractors for the business you own. Even pulling a race car to the track can be commercial, if there is prizes involved.
    What will you be doing specifically?

    I'll assume you are, in fact, commercial as that is more likely....

    Class A commercial driver's license is required to operate any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 lbs. or more, to include a towed vehicle that is HEAVIER than 10,000 lbs.

    Class B commercial driver license is required to operate:
    • A single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 lbs. or heavier.
      AND/OR
    • Any vehicle as described above that is towing another vehicle weighing UP TO 10,000 lbs.
    Is the trailer 25,000 GVWR, or is the truck and trailer a 25,000 GCVWR? (combined)
     
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    dinglehopper Bobtail Member

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    thanks. first of all i haven’t bought the ideal truck and trailer yet and would be using the truck and trailer for personal and commercial use. i would be flatbed hauling anything and everything from veicles to pallets to you name it.

    the GVWR of the gooseneck trailer itself i am thinking of buying will range between 25,000 - 32,000 lbs. a bit off topic but, i know this is a lot for a new 1 ton SRW gasser but i would be driving slow, carefully and within a 20 mile radius in an area with no steep hills. 10 mile radius will be more prevalent.

    i think the new truck itself i’m looking at is somewhere between 12 or 14,000 GVWR. so a combined GCVWR of around 35 - 40,000 lbs.
     
  5. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    In that case, as you are commercial you will need a class A, as you will both be over 26,000 lbs and hauling a trailer over 10,000 lbs.

    Here is a flowchart that shows that...
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    dinglehopper Bobtail Member

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    thanks, yup i would definitely be class A. my current truck is a 1995 f250 that’s 8,880 GVW and a PJ flatbed trailer that’s 14,000 GVW for a combined 22,880 GCVWR. i use the truck and trailer for both personal and commercial use. do i need a class A because i am towing commercially and/or because my trailer is over 10,000 GVW?
     
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    Lite bug Road Train Member

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    Check with your states requirement. In the state of Ohio you could run with a class c. With your distance traveled you would not even a log book. You would not need to file for IFTA. Some hoops not needed. You will need to pass DOT Physical, carry insurance among other things. Good luck.
     
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