Central Refrigerated Truck Stop II

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  1. passion4polishing

    passion4polishing Road Train Member

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    I'm not sure why you continue to bring up the lease when it has been thoroughly hashed out here. It's in bad taste at this point.

    On the pay side: employee compensation follows the same supply and demand laws that dictate the price of everything we buy. If we all stopped buying diesel tomorrow the price would start to tank, especially as we start to run out of room to store the product. But diesel fuel is a commodity with a demand, and is priced accordingly. (side note - this is exactly why fuel prices dropped 50% in 2008) This same law applies to employees. As long as central can get new meat to fill the seat, they aren't going to be giving out nicer pay packages. This is why corporations aren't people. Corporations are numbers on a general ledger. As long as they are moving the right way the corporation is happy. Are other large employers any different? With a few shining exceptions, companies pay the lowest wages the market will bear.
     
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  3. jess-juju

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    The price of Oil is artificially inflated, which makes the deisel price higher!

    I wonder what happens to all these Lease programs if the IRS decides that all the Lease Ops are NOT Independent contractors and in fact are employees:biggrin_25524:

    Here is a link its the standard 20 questions read it guys its very interesting

    http://biztaxlaw.about.com/od/independentcontractors/f/ic20factortest.htm
     
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  4. mama mia

    mama mia Medium Load Member

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    Passion, you are oversimplifying things. If a corporation chooses to solely go by the cheapest labor rate the market will bear and not consider quality, your product may suffer, and therefore their bottom line. Quality must be considered when deciding a compensation for personnel. Central knows that they CAN replace any driver, and one newb replacing another isn't going to affect their serviceability. They adjust compensation continuously to entice people to come or lease. I just found our driver manual from 3 years ago, and unless I am mistaken they also have not brought back the reward for getting a good inspection. LadyK mentioned the pet policy, this change isto entice pet lovers to lease. They took away ontime bonus, the drivers started being late, punishment didn't work, so they brought the on-time bonus back. I believe if their score suffers enough they will reinstate the inspection bonus as well.
     
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  5. passion4polishing

    passion4polishing Road Train Member

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    you're right that more than just numbers goes into the compensation, the same way you pay more for an organically grown gala apple than a mass produced granny smith. i simplified it to make for a shorter post, but when i said meat in the seat, i should have said meat which meets their standard of quality. That means the supply side excludes those who dont meet the minimum standards.

    On the price of diesel, It's a somewhat bad example because in a healthy economy fuel has somewhat inelastic demand, and the price is based on the cost of oil whose cost moves based on speculation in the market, but in simple terms I think the analogy can help people to understand why wages have stagnated, or gone down in recent years.
     
  6. mama mia

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    I was going to ask if you have been drinking 0bama's koolaid on the diesel/gas thing, but decided against it. Something everyone can understand right now is looking at the price of Twinkies. No supply, demand is still there, so the price goes through the roof.
     
  7. blukatnga

    blukatnga Light Load Member

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    Well, I've read all 222 pages on Central Refrigerated and all the "Truckstop" threads and I guess I am least a bit more informed. I've enjoyed the positive and the negative, the spirited lease discussions, the good, the bad, and the really bad !! Overall, my impression is that the company is still a pretty good one compared to a lot of others. It certainly seems to be a decent company to start your career with and that's what I'm gonna do. Thanks to all the veteran truckers advice as well as the newbies first impressions. All you guys and gals deserve respect and I know I thank you all for your service in a some time thankless profession. I ship out on next Sunday to Conley and I am so ready to get going. Thanks again, really, thanks for the advice and the learning experience. Hope to see some of you soon !!
     
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  8. 6pak4-two

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    I guess you missed the first part of the post and the fact that I said 1,800 trucks. The point was and still is Central can and will do whatever they want. If 100 drivers start Monday I guess it's ok with you if your pay drops because of supply in demand. Most of the numbers I mentioned were about company drivers and and what they lost. As far as the lease goes all I said was what Central can do, both on the bond and and if you don't finish your lease. I don't care who leases a truck I'm just telling you what Steve wont. There are 2 sides to a coin just like there are 2 sides to a lease. As a solo driver take a good look at your pay breakdown your pays not on what the truck did but how much your surcharge was surcharge is your pay. PS I have a lot of Central pay stubs to look at plus I did fine as both a company and L/O driver and I'm not pissed off at Central I may even go back and drive for them next year. By the way (the meat in the seat statement) you made yourself sound expendable.

    Good luck and drive safe :)
     
  9. snowwy

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    i see one central websight say lease can make 15% - 30% more then company.

    but on another central sight. it says lease can double there income. that's 100%.

    i don't see anything about the cents per mile for company driver. what is the pay these days???

    when i went to school. it was $350 per week training. and .30 cents starting out. maxing out at .35 for veteran drivers.
     
  10. snowwy

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    here's a job if anyone is interested. don't ask my why i got this email. ]


    Date : 18 November 2012
    Time : 07:23
    Sender : Brandon Edwards Hiring Department of ILG Group

    We got your CV at one of the { Let:vacancies|job offering} sites. This is a position for the USA only. We offer you to work as a Logistics Manager. The earnings will be $1,800 monthly and the working time will be about 10-12 hours weekly. We are one of the main organisations offering Logistic Services. We also handle the demands of Heavy Equipment like Crain, Waste water tanks, Chemical tanks and so on. Our business procedures are led by experienced experts. We have a professional business attitude to provide buyers with hundred per cent international cargo logistics services of high quality. Our responsible and hard-working personnel allows us to cater to all needs of clients and to give them plenary satisfaction.

    Requirements: - 21 years at least - Quickly respond to all messages coming from your personal manager - Capable to get packages right to your home address (not P.O. Box) - Be accessible on the cell and fixed phone during the worktime - no previous conviction. good credit history - a personal mobile phone - basic Microsoft Office skills - permanent Internet access within the workday Working place: - the vacancy is mainly home-based, but you have to be able to get in contact with delivery couriers and delivery services. - phone access and a printer are obligate Documents: - The contract between the firm and the worker. - A scanned copy of your ID (passport or driver's license) When the contract is signed by both sides, you will be contacted and guided through the whole process. Logistics manager has several functions and supports our customers. The main functions are coordination and synchronization of the load services by means of contacting clients, and USPS, UPS, and FedEx couriers to make sure that each product is delivered on time. Logistics manager is a direct contact between the seller, delivery service and buyer as he/she will take care of the buyer's satisfaction by maintaining contact and communicating with couriers and customers during the whole process of the transaction. Logistics manager must provide quick delivery. You will get detailed information about every item that you need to get and resend. The most popular parcels are golden and silver wares, watches, electronic appliances and collectibles. We offer a 2 week paid vacation twice a year and the first vacation can be after 4 months. All the taxes stated in your tax returns will be covered by our firm.

    To get more information, reply to this letter.
     
  11. Doulos

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    The decision whether or not to lease belongs to an individual. And as in most decisions caveat emptor (buyer beware) applies. The terms should be examined and analyzed as well as the risk assessed. And, should those terms be found acceptable and beneficial to that individual according to their own circumstances then I see no reason they shouldn't enter into such a contract. This is regardless of whether the contract seems "fair" so that both parties benefit an equal amount. Surely this should be taken into account as to the nature of the party you are entering into a contract with, but this doesn't nullify what I've said previously.

    Also, just because Central exerts some control over a lease operator doesn't mean that your truck is "owned and operated" by them. It really isn't much different than viewing Central as the customer of the lease operator. I've been a contractor before (running a four man crew) who for a period of time served a single customer. That customer was able to exert a great amount of control since they were a BIG customer and it was beneficial for me to serve them in the manner in which they desired. I've also worked for a company that held institutional contracts with millions of dollars of revenue at stake. Guess what? They were able to exert an enormous amount of control over both my activities and the activities of my company. Being in business for yourself doesn't always mean taking the lone road and doing whatever you want when you want. Most of the time it means doing what you must to achieve what you want. But, the big decisions are still yours and one of those will always be whether you want to continue in your business relationship.

    I know its easy to think of companies that do things that you don't like as "bad guys." But, what they are in reality are objects operated by people. Objects are to be used, and as an object Central should be used to achieve what you want as you can. If you find it useless, then discard it in favor of a better tool. As far as emotional involvement goes; it would be better left to people and if a business does something you don't like, then properly attribute it to the one or ones who are using the business to do it. Just my 2 cents.
     
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