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  1. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    You can go 8/2 or 2/8 as long as you keep drive time available. Example: you drive 2 hrs to the shipper. They take 2 hours to load you. You can log that either sleeper or off duty. With that 2 hrs, you've started a 10 hr break. You leave the shipper, and you drive 4 hrs. You feel like you need a nap. Park 8 hrs. Now when you log 8 hrs, you have to do that in the sleeper. Once the 8 hrs is up, you get 7 hrs back. You get 7 back because you burned 4 after you left the shipper. You've done an entire 10. The 2 at the shipper + your 8 hr nap, gets you a full ten. By doing it that way, the 2 hrs you've sat now means something.

    Sometimes I do the 8 hrs first, then the 2. Doing 8 hrs works I'd you haven't driven that much and you got held up forever in a day, or if you want to pace yourself on running a load. You could run 5 hrs, sleep 8, regain 6 hrs after the 8, run another 5 hrs, chill for 2, regain 6, and just keep that cycle going. If you stopped 8 the first time, stop for 2 the next time, alternate. That's where the flexibility in HOS really is. I been running 8/2 or 2/8 all week, but if you use all or most of your drive time, the split is useless.
     
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  3. Metacoyote

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    Does it always have to be 8/2 or 2/8? What if the shipper took 3 hours to load you? Could you count that as 3 hours in the sleeper, drive 4 hours and then do 7 more in the sleeper?
     
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    No for now i believe it has to be 8/2. We're supposed to have some new hos rules coming into effect at some point. I think one of the changes will affect how we can use the split rule. Hopefully safety will give us some clarification on things when that happens.
     
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    Yeah, man the new rules will give you an option of 8/2 or 7/3 splits. There are other new rules that in my mind dont change much. The one I do like is that you can use line 4 for a half hour break. Example, fueling for 15 min, the 15 off duty. They give an adverse condition rule, like if you're stuck in traffic or something like that, you can get 2 more hrs on your 14, but to me understanding you still have to do 10 hrs after parking. Not much benefit in that to me. To me, the traffic that's most killer is NY and LA, then it is beneficial. I dont really feel like shippers and receivers holding up drivers is addressed with these rules. I don't know if it anything can ever fix that. I was in Olney, IL at the Walmart DC for 4 hrs I anticipated that though, because I had so many POs
     
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    We have that extra 2 hr exception now also but ya gotta get permission from safety to use it. If ya don't get permission beforehand the eld will give ya a log violation.
     
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    Sept 29th new hos take effect
     
  8. Metacoyote

    Metacoyote Light Load Member

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    Professional drivers soon become professional waiters -- and I don't mean the kind that work in restaurants. The only thing that would change this lackadaisical attitude (or just outright indifference) with shippers and receivers is if they actually had to pay detention for making us wait.
     
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    Professor No-Name Road Train Member

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    Yes i agree. Shippers and receivers should be fined a minimum of 100 an hour after 2 hrs. If they can't honor their appointments then they shouldn't have made it in the 1st place. Why should we have to wait for them to breakdown an count freight. We normally pick up already sealed loads or loads sealed immediately after getting loaded. Take the stuff off my truck an take up your os&d with the shipper. Stop making drivers the middle man.
     
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    The screwed up thing is that there are shippers and receivers that are ok paying detention!!! I've seen what they get charged and it's well into the thousands. It's really those big money places like Pepsi that have that attitude. I went to a place in Smackover, AR(yes that's the name of the city lol) that could load a truck in 30 min. The lady in the office told me that she assigns different loaders to each order. Their rule is, if they have to pay detention, it's coming out of that loaders check. I loved that...sometimes places get swamped and they are low on help. I can understand that. The outright playing around and BSing is what I can't take.
     
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    I never understood pickup appointments. A driver makes a pickup appointment maybe 50 percent of the time. I guess that's the only way they can avoid detention, or charge a late fee, like Americold does. In Monte Vista, they are slick. I've waited there a out 4 hours before, and then they have fabricate your times on the paperwork, and have you sign off on it. I told them one day, "Y'all think you slick don't you?"
     
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