Company drivers - save your fuel receipts

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by burnedoutnewbie, Aug 30, 2007.

  1. burnedoutnewbie

    burnedoutnewbie Bobtail Member

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    I was pulled for random roadside inspection in Oregon. As many of us know, OR requires a fuel permit. What I didn't know is that the trooper can demand you show fuel receipts.

    20 minutes before the inspection, just by chance, I had fueled and printed a fuel receipt to have a shower credited to my driver card (pump reader wasn't working) and saved it. The company I worked for does not require the driver to obtain fuel receipts. Anyway, it was the only one I had to show the trooper, and he was satisfied.

    The moral here is to save your fuel reciepts, at least when traveling through OR.

    On a side note, the inspection was very through, but uneventful. The trooper and a deputy Sheriff that was assisting were very polite and professional. Couldn't have asked for a couple of nicer guys.
     
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  3. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    One of the fines for not having a fuel permit can include jail time for the driver.
     
  4. Ducks

    Ducks "Token Four-Wheeler"

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    Stupid question time: What is a fuel permit and why would a trucker need one? I mean, the term "fuel permit" alone indicates a permit to fuel your vehicle... and since it's pretty obvious a vehicle won't go anywhere without fuel... and the very purpose of trucking is to transport goods... why in the world would you need one of those? I'm missing something here.

    I think you guys are permitted out the wazoo...
     
  5. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    You got that right.
     
  6. Ducks

    Ducks "Token Four-Wheeler"

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    You know, Brickman, tax WAS my first thought... but it seemed so blatantly obscene that I thought it couldn't be the reason. How do they get away with this stuff? They already tax the fuel... and now they tax you for the "privilege" of buying said taxed product which is essential to your purpose to deliver goods that will be taxed upon sale... so you can earn money that they will also tax?

    At some point, this should be illegal. I'm sorry. I don't know what else to say. It's insane.
     
  7. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    OR is really screwed up. If you DO NOT have a fuel permit then you pay tax at the pump like every other state that does not even bother with a fuel permit. But if you have the permit then you don't pay tax at the pump but you have to file with OR at the end of the quarter and pay it then. And if truckers don't have the permit then OR thinks you are trying to jack them and will fine you out the wazoo and/or throw the driver in jail.

    Its convoluted and confusing.
     
  8. Ducks

    Ducks "Token Four-Wheeler"

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    Thanks so much for your explanations, Brickman. While I've always respected truckers for their driving skills, knowledge of the roads, and willingness to lend a hand where needed, I had no clue about all the regulations and everyday b/s you guys tolerate in the course of your job.

    What seems difficult to comprehend, though, is why each state is permitted their own regulations in an industry whose business is interstate. I would think that regulations and permits would be consistent throughout the contiguous 48 states.

    I am learning so much here on this forum... and I really appreciate your willingness to answer what are, to you all, very basic questions. Sometimes I just sit here and shake my head in utter amazement.
     
  9. soundman

    soundman Light Load Member

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    So, where and when do you get the fuel permit, and how long is it good for? Do you need it if you are just passing through?
     
  10. kelgar50

    kelgar50 Medium Load Member

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    Your permit is your oregon permit its an annual permit OR did away with PUC a few years ago.It is the permit you must have to travel in OR.All you do when fueling is give them your plate # and state.
    There is no fuel tax in OR at all if you have the permit,the only tax is a mileage tax which is charged for every mile you drive in there state the tax runs about .10 or .12 cpm I can't remember.And that is what is paid on a qaurterlly basis.
     
  11. 2xR

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    Very few trucking companies buy permits for each individual state in which they travel. Instead, they will get an IFTA (International Fuel Tax Agreement) permit/sticker from their home jurisdiction. Usually every quarter a mileage and fuel purchased by state type report is sent to the home jurisdiction and they divvy up the tax proceeds amongst all the jurisdictions based on how many miles were ran in each, and how much fuel was bought in each. Supposedly it's a zero-sum transaction, but the trucking company will usually owe a little money and have to send a check in with the report.

    Then there is the IRP (International Registration Plan) where the trucking company pays for the license plate for the power unit. It is based on weight, estimated mileage, and which jurisdictions the truck will be used in. Again, the home jurisdiction will divvy up the proceeds shared by the others. All this is recorded on a cab card which the driver had dang-well better have in the truck, if asked to show it.

    And, this is just the tip of the iceberg...
     
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