D.O.T. refueling procedures

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Lead foot eddie, Aug 20, 2018.

  1. Lead foot eddie

    Lead foot eddie Bobtail Member

    Aug 20, 2018
    Recently, I attended a company orientation.
    During this orientation I was told by Safety that it is illegal for a trucker to refuel both saddle tanks simultaneously,( or at the same time.)

    I was told that if I do this,& D.O.T. pulls in the truck stop that they can,& will give me a ticket of up to $1,100.00

    Is this true?
    If so, under what section of the FMCSA is it under?
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  3. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

    Dec 9, 2017
    Im gonna call b.s. on the basis of I've never seen or heard of it happening and if it was true every DOT would be parked by a truck stop with binoculars, seems like easy tickets to me but I could be wrong.
  4. Sublime

    Sublime Road Train Member

    Jan 18, 2013
    Twin Cities, MN

    WTH?! That's a new one.
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  5. SteveScott

    SteveScott Road Train Member

    Nov 10, 2015
    That's a new one on me. Does this "safety" person have a CDL, or did they just misread the regulations?
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  6. Cat sdp

    Cat sdp . .

    Apr 8, 2012
    Orion's Belt
    Since I’m paying for the fuel on the ground I only fuel one side at a time anyways....:)
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  7. aussiejosh

    aussiejosh Road Train Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    Airlie Beach QLd
    This is one reason why it pays not to @#$% of any law enforcement officer cause they'll take it out on the next driver you'll find the rule does apply however very few if any actually enforce the law its kind of the same with the parking on exit and entry lanes to rest stops that's illegal too however the law enforcement officers seem to let if ride based on they'd rather see you parked illegally than driving fatigued on the road. However if your illegally parked vehicle causes an unnecessary traffic incident be sure to find the law heavily reinforced. Same goes for fueling both tanks nothing is done until someone causes a massive spill or worse a huge fuel fire then you've got EPA , AFT, FBI and every other initial on the case.
  8. Cattleman84

    Cattleman84 Road Train Member

    Nov 1, 2017
    The Sticks, Idaho
    Sounds to me like they are feeding company drivers a line of BS... Someone probably had both nozzles going (like we all do) and one fell out of the tank (cause driver didnt make sure it was stable) and pumped fuel all over the place, cause the driver was not standing right there beside it. Basically they want you to have a hand on the nozzle while its pumping... So they make up BS regs to scare you into complying... The don't expect people to call their bluff, so get out your little green book and try and find it... When you cant find it ask the safety guy that said it was illegal where that is stated... CALL HIS BLUFF!!!
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  9. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

    Oct 3, 2011
    Longview, TX
    This is when you are carrying hazmat i.e placarded loads. A driver or other person responsible for the truck's safety is supposed to be "at the nozzle controlling fuel flow at all times" or something like this language.

    This is found in CA CDL manual regarding transportation of hazardous materials but federal FMCSA bible has the same language
    9.6.7 – Refuel With Engine Off
    Turn off your engine before fueling a motor vehicle containing hazardous materials. Someone must always be at the nozzle, controlling fuel flow.
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2018
  10. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

    May 7, 2011
    §397.15 applies IF you're hauling hazmat. If not, it wouldn't.
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  11. TheyCallMeDave

    TheyCallMeDave Heavy Load Member

    Dec 17, 2014
    Now I curious OP, does your company haul hazmat regularly? If not, your safety man sounds like a moron. Never ceases to amaze me what you hear in the industry from people "in the know."
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