Deadbeat DeadHeading .... .. .

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Matthews, Apr 26, 2007.

  1. Matthews

    Matthews Medium Load Member

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    This is not common for the Matthew CO. We try hard to stay within the 300 - 400 mile ( pee circle ). lol

    But I myself WILL take the load if the load has a decent rate & Fsc.

    All the best,
    Matt
     
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  3. Bullwinkle

    Bullwinkle Medium Load Member

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    You hiring? :biggrin_25525:

    Seriously though, I think that is a bad idea. If the drivers are working off of a percentage, and the rate pays good enough to cover the deadhead, they really don't have much to complain about that I can see.

    If you are going to pick up loads and bring them back, seems like that will be increasing the mileage of the load unnecessarily (unless they happen to be comeing back through the area in route to their destination anyway)
     
  4. Matthews

    Matthews Medium Load Member

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    lol not till we are able to get another truck or two.....

    My guys are all older 56(RETIRED) and 60(Friend of the family).
    What I ment was, I can bring the loads to the yard and drop the trailers so that the guys dont have to DH anywhere. Just come back to the yard for a ready to roll trailer.??

    That would eliminate the guys dead heading anywhere either than returning home. But most of the time they get a back haul and deliver that too, the same day!
    Maybe if I help them out this way it would cover the LOSS in DH miles? Plus, if able to deliver the local backhaul and deliver the other load to? Wow, thats alot of work though dont you think?

    Dam, just thinking about this make me wanna try.... ( Changes ) can be good, and they can also be detrimental!!!!!

    Dunno, I guess we could try it for a few days and see how things go?

    All the best,
    Matt
     
  5. dstockwell

    dstockwell Light Load Member

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  6. coastie

    coastie Road Train Member

    I was going to say I would love to make 500.00 per week. Right now pending how many weeks in the month I make from 340.00 to 425.00 per week if put it in a weekly since.
     
  7. dstockwell

    dstockwell Light Load Member

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    I still do not see $500 a week as very good.
     
  8. Carolina_Beaver_Teaser

    Carolina_Beaver_Teaser Light Load Member

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    If you're an independent...... NO...They shouldn't pay dead head.

    But.......(that magical 3 letter word!!) you're an Leased operator...... well then it gets a little different, at best, to say.

    :biggrin_2556:
    #1 Do you choose your own loads? if so, who pays you? (do you have to wait for broker or does your " company" pay you?

    #2 If you choose your loads, and the broker pays you, whats your point?

    #3 If you are leased on to company, still, whats your point... Move on. get your Authority. Deal with some of the headaches. Deal with customers directly (i.e. shippers). and wait for 30 to 60 days for payment, and steer clear of a holes who want 120 days net!!!! (paveco)
    If you cant waut for payment deal with the factoring companies. ( whats factoring?, if you gotta ask.....)

    Dude, basically, you done the right thing, that load was /is crap.. regardless of back haul.
    get it good going out , preferably as if no back haul exist, but reasonable i.e. pay for operating costs, then when you accept back haul, make sure its still within reason of time + costs.

    Good Luck & Thanks for using your head.
     
  9. Carolina_Beaver_Teaser

    Carolina_Beaver_Teaser Light Load Member

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    EXACTLY!!!!!! USE YOUR NOGGIN!!!
     
  10. Carolina_Beaver_Teaser

    Carolina_Beaver_Teaser Light Load Member

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    Look I agree with a lot of these posts on this issue..... But a few I do not.
    My company consist of myself and 3 other O/O. We all share the benefits and downsides of this business.(i.e. they share in the operating side as well, dot compliance, bookkeeping, maintenance, the whole d@#$ 9 Yards!!)
    I take 8 % from gross. Unless I am helping them get a truck. We run for a select group of shippers.
    We run and average of 98000 per year per truck.
    With and average gross revenue of 175,989.00 per truck. (4 trucks!)
    I started with my own Authority 12 years ago, and it wasn't running garbage freight.
    I have had the same O/O ( basically partners as they also get 5% of net profits) for the past 10 1/2 years.
    Did I do this by running cheap freight? NO
    do WE continue to do this by running cheap freight? NO

    We do this by performing the very basics for customers. get at a time it needs to be got.
    deliver it when it needs to be delivered.
    And everything else will be work itself out.
    This is where the big boys are screwing up!!!!
    Got 1000 trucks, 250 trucks in area. 3/4 of those are out of hours for day / week/ whatever!

    Ohhh! and by the way. I know this will tie into another post, between myself and my other 3 partners, only 1 speeding ticket in 10 years.....That goes to show, if you "Know when to hold'em, and know when to fold'em!!! "
    :biggrin_2559:
    To all prospecting O/O's , You can do it. Just use your head! and fill a niche. It's out there.
    And leave all that useless freight to big 3 or 4 or 5, they can handle it...after all they created it.:biggrin_25514:
     
  11. coastie

    coastie Road Train Member

    Well I like to make more but for me to make more is a up hill battle. Been fighting for more now since 2000 If I win i'll make more than when I was working, but the problem is winning. If I was an Illegal I probley get everything I need, but just a Disable Vet, I'm about to loose everything. So I am been reading and learning what all changed since I retired so I can make a come back. Retired at 44 is the pitts. I just have some harder walls to climb to get back to work.
     
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