Detention Pay: $1.3B annual Shaft

Discussion in 'Shippers & Receivers - Good or Bad' started by ReeferRick, Feb 8, 2018.

Is $1.3B in detention costs accurate?

  1. Too low a $ #

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  2. Too high a $ #

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  3. Accurate

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  1. ReeferRick

    ReeferRick Light Load Member

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  3. STexan

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    I don't think anybody's denying long delays are a problem. Question is what can be done about it? Sometimes it's just a chronically slow facility, but sometimes there's a legitimate problem that can cause an isolated delay, such as a production line breakdown or other inbound shipment that was late. But lot's of times, it is a carrier late arrival [to an appointment] that leads to an extended delay and you can't expect the carrier to be honest about the situation in later discussions ... but often it's an earlier lengthy delay at a receiver that leads to a late arrival at a preplanned shipper.

    It's the chronically slow facilities that need to be addressed, but how does the industry identify these facilities? Then once they are identified, what's going to be done about it?
     
  4. ReeferRick

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    Maybe a tech fix i also read about on overdrive...kinda pie in the shy but w/e:

    Existing technology makes it possible to define a geofenced location within another geofenced location. Using geofencing and sensor-produced shared data could add sophistication to pricing schemes in smart contracts.

    For example, when a driver crosses the receiver’s first geofence boundary, it triggers an update for the receiver, which could include the driver’s available hours if he’s using an electronic log, and sharing of information about docks with the carrier, Burruss says. Then if the driver “sits in the line for two hours,” the system knows it. “There’s a secondary geofence then around the dock. You now have a record of when that driver entered the secondary geofence to unload.”

    Using that data as part of a blockchain smart contract would benefit both the fleet and the driver, who gets paid automatically for the documented detention time in addition to his take on the load. If perhaps that driver is almost out of hours and the facility personnel know it, prioritizing loading or unloading could be possible with the right contract terms and smarter management of in and out times.

    Blockchain: Better tools to fight detention abuse, with added utility for driver, carrier credentials
     
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    I thought the elog was going to fix this? Lol!:biggrin_25523:
     
  6. ReeferRick

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    Those ###hats in DC sold us a pipedream...it never ends lol
     
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  7. STexan

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    But in the circles I run in (truckload frozen and chilled foods primarily) I see long delays slowly happening less and less frequently. So it seems the problem is improving organically in reaction to certain pressures from various angles. Sure, there are some places that will refuse to work to improve their operations, but with eLogs, these places will quickly find it hard to get trucks at the cheaper rates they're accustomed to. They'll eventually have to do something. Let the market work and give "eLogs reality" a chance to impact the market at all levels and let's see what happens by the end of 2018. Let the "cheap freight haulers" have the slow shipper and/or receiver freight [that will filter out to brokers eventually].
     
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  8. ReeferRick

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    $20 says the new head of logistics at Walmart you mentioned Greg Smith is going to bust some ### at his DCs/consolidation centers w/elog + blockchain...profits from new efficiencies are gonna skyrocket...maybe this a pie in the sky as well
     
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    It cost the drivers and the companies $$$ when the equipment is tied up.
    Easily reach into the Billions
     
  10. gentleroger

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    Schneider tried geofencing a few years ago. At the time gps/connectivity wasn't quite reliable enough leading to many false readings. Anyplace backing onto to a freeway would trigger the geofence as you drove by.

    Technology is better now, but there's still too many legacy dispatching programs in use, too much proprietary information at stake to have companies want to share that kind of data.
     
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  11. ReeferRick

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    Which gps tracking system you using?
     
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