Do all ELD's show On Duty no matter what?

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Whatagal, Mar 14, 2021.

  1. Whatagal

    Whatagal Light Load Member

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    My Omnitrac ELD keeps me On Duty all day, once I actually go On Duty. This eats up my 70 & shorts me on so many driving hours!
    For example, I come in from out of state & deliver my load near home Monday morning. By 11 a.m. I'm parked on the yard in Off Duty status. I leave, go to Walmart, eat Chinese buffet, get my hair cut... 4 hours later I get back in my truck & leave to go load. But that night I run out of On Duty hours ONLY because even though the ELD was on Off Duty for 4 hours, it still counted it as On Duty.
    It's not just me. This happens to everyone in my company. Makes no difference if it is on Off Duty or Sleeper Berth. It will keep ticking away those On Duty minutes.
    This doesn't seem legal. Are all ELD's this way???
     
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  3. Wasted Thyme

    Wasted Thyme Road Train Member

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    I think you're confusing your 14 and 70 clocks. Our Qualcomm/omnitrans don't reduce the 70 for anything other than on duty or driving. But once you start working. Your 14 will go down regardless. UNLESS you are in a split. So yeah that DOT clock will keep counting down. Look at the summary tab when you are off duty. You should see the 14 going down. But the 70 not moving.
     
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  4. Dave1837

    Dave1837 Heavy Load Member

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    Agreed with what Wasted said, your 14 will keep ticking, it'll even go into the negatives until your 10 hrs off is met then it'll reset
     
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  5. Bakerman

    Bakerman Road Train Member

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    Life seems to be so much easier on paper.
     
  6. ZVar

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    I'm going to ignore split sleeper logging as if you don't have the basics down it's useless to get into more advanced logging. (Or 60 hour clock for that matter)

    You have several clocks to pay attention to.
    1. 70 hour clock. This is the amount of on duty/driving time in 8 calendar days.
    2. 14 hour window. You can only drive inside this window once started for the day.
    3. 11 hour driving clock. You can drive up to 11 hours inside that 14 hour window.
    4. 8 hour "break" clock. Can drive a max of 8 hours before having stop for 30 minutes.
    5. 10 hour clock. Required to reset the 14 and 11 clocks.
    6. Optional 34 hour clock. Resets all other clocks after 34 off duty/sleeper berth.

    Drive time is always the lesser of the clocks. For example, your 14 hour window.
    You start your day at 6:00 am. You will not be able to drive after 8:00pm due to the 14 hour window.
    Another example is the 11 hour clock. Say you start at 6:00am, do your pretrip and start rolling at 6:30. You can drive untill 2:30pm, take the 30 minute break, and continue driving until 6:00 pm before running out of drive time.

    But remember that the 14 is not a clock counting down like all the other clocks. It's a window you are allowed to drive in once started for the day.
     
  7. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    How are paper logs going to help him understand his clocks? All that's going to do is make it worse for him whenever he gets inspected, because it will be messed up and he doesn't know it's messed up.
     
  8. Wasted Thyme

    Wasted Thyme Road Train Member

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    "Her." LOL
     
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  9. Bakerman

    Bakerman Road Train Member

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    Paper log won’t switch him to on duty when he is off duty.
     
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  10. roshea

    roshea Road Train Member

    Neither will ELD
     
  11. MTN Boomer

    MTN Boomer Heavy Load Member

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    It does, more than once. If you dont have a paper log , you are in violation.
     
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