Does your company charge you for idling??? How much???

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by truckerdave1970, Sep 5, 2009.

  1. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    I know lots of folks with low idle times, usually 5-8% is the norm.

    The OTR drivers have an APU, and the local drivers sleep at home at night.

    If you have less than 1% showing on your readout, your company (or you) doesn't break the idle times into segments. Nor do they combine those segments into a single readout. They have elected to read idle time from the "extended" segment only

    3% - 5% is reflective of inner city driving, so short term is not being collected for your averages.

    I've seen the data collected off a truck that "never" idled reflect above 10%. It's a common misperception for drivers to omit idle times at red lights from their thinking.
     
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  3. truckerdave1970

    truckerdave1970 On Probation

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    Congradu-freaking-lations! That's exactly what your carrier wants to hear! Yet 1 more sheep ready for slaughter!
     
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  4. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Actually, his carrier is less anal than most. Or, if he owns his own truck. the idle times are not being computed like dirt bag Covenant computes theirs.

    Covenant collects data from 3 differant idle areas, then combines them for a total.

    Short cycle -- collected in traffic 0-5 minute cycles

    Mid cycle -- usually collected while fueling, opening trailer doors, etc 5-15 minute cycles

    Extended cycle -- anything over a half hour, 15 minutes in some/most cases

    You can see how easily the data can be misleading, and inaccurate when using this method of collection.

    Had to come back and add this. ANY cycle can be taken away from the total. It's a simple omit command in the software.
     
  5. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Might even have an APU. That percent is about normal for a truck with one.
     
  6. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    RM, while it may be true he has exceptionally low idle times.

    The only way to get 1% or lower. Is to virtually never leave the interstate.

    Or, be a driver for someone like UPS. Fire up the truck, pull out of the gate, hit maybe 2 lights on the way...pull in the next gate, 500 miles away. Shut the truck off.

    He's comparing apples to oranges I think. Not a realistic expectation for an OTR driver.
     
  7. truckerdave1970

    truckerdave1970 On Probation

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    If it were up to me and I was Emperor of the world, every truck would have an APU and this would be a moot point!
    How is it that some carriers see the benefits of installing them and some dont?
    In addition to the obvious fuel savings, the carrier will save on wear and tear on the truck motor. Then there is the resale value bonus. I'm sure there are tax inplications that I'm not aware of that could help the carrier justify the investment also. But I would think the most valuable selling point would have to be the savings in driver retention/recruiting. A driver who THINKS his company is concerned for his comfort and happiness will be less likely to quit. And when that company has to fill am empty truck, I think, they will be able to recruit a better caliber of driver simply because they have an APU vs. companies that dont.
    But what do I know? I'm just a dumb outlaw trucker!
     
  8. goforce

    goforce Light Load Member

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    Company does not charge for idling. Boss says stay cool and stay warm. WYour health is important. If you cant work then we don't make money.

    Alan:biggrin_25514:
     
  9. truckerdave1970

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    Imagine that a company owner with UNCOMMON sense. someone who gets it! Sounds like someone I want to work for!
     
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