Has anyone heard of DOT enforcement using prepass records for matching driver's logs?
Had a conversation with a DOT officer "off the record" recently while on vacation, he was from the Midwest, shall we say. He told me he does safety audits and that his state regularly use the prepass reports to match driver's logs when doing audits.
He said it was easy to get log falsification violations this way , and they raise mucho revenue for the state!!
DOT Using prepass for Log Falsification
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by BUZZSAW, Jul 27, 2007.
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I heard that prepass didn't release records unless under court order. If what you say is true, I am glad to not have it.
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Anything you turn into the company or anything that gives a date/time or just date with a city/state will be matched against your logs. Many companys are just telling drivers to make sure their fuel, DOT inspections and accidents match their log sheets. Well when DOT does an internal audit (company) they will pull ez-pass records, pre-pass etc, tolls, scale, fuel, bills, dispatch records etc. I always say if you scan in a receipt for a cup of cofee and the company keeps that receipt it can be matched to your log sheet.
Listen: DOT's biggest thing is you are in the location you should be, the next is are you logging line 4 when you are working but not driving.
I just went through an internal audit so I know what they are looking for and how "Indiana" is doing it right now
I like to teach drivers what DOT does when they come in for an audit and what they do to you on the road so you have a much better idea.
The whole point is, they will try and find you lieing and hope you are not. If you are lieing you are putting that company at risk for fines or possibly being shut down. Also it puts a red flag up for all dot officers that the company is not being safe with logs etc so they pull you over more (which cost you money as well).
It's all a team effort "drivers" you have to log it as you do it and you won't lose money and won't have any stress due to log books!
Ok I added my ummm log advice2fuzy, Tazz and possumgravy Thank this. -
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According to there web site they can't even tell how fast you are going between scales.
And there is no time stamp on the bill that is sent to the carrier.So they can't match it to your logs. -
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What is their website link so I can read it. Maybe they mean they don't e-mail it to DOT or mail etc????
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He was actually talking about pre-pass though and I am going to find out for sure as long as I remember . -
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From what I can remember, pre-pass was not supposed to be allowed to be used by DOT. Doesn't really matter to me where I work because we don't use it, but that is how I remember it when it came out.
One more reason I prefer small companies that avoid things like this.
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