Double Yellow's Company Driver to Independent Thread

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by double yellow, Nov 5, 2014.

  1. RedForeman

    RedForeman Momentum Conservationist

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    You're really asking this? You already know you're supposed to stop at the busiest Love's or Pilot in the area. Then go inside and cash 3 comcheks without ID. Then go get your value meal first and eat that so you'll have enough strength to hold the fuel nozzle when you make it back to your truck. Probably enough time for a shower on your way back in for the receipt, since you'll have a point on there when the pump shuts off.
     
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  3. TruckerPete1990

    TruckerPete1990 Road Train Member

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    How about on my way to a carrier. The carrier I'm leasing too is almost 600 miles away. No trailer just bobtail. Do I need to stop at scales?
     
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  4. TruckerPete1990

    TruckerPete1990 Road Train Member

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    Ha I've never walked away from pump while fueling. But I see it all the time
     
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  5. Lone Ranger 13

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    A few years ago I saw a Prime truck at the fuel island left unattended with the pumps going. It didn't shutoff . Fuel was overflowing. I didn't feel like walking through diesel to turn it off . If the driver wasn't concerned enough to watch his truck I figured it wasn't my problem.
     
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  6. paul_4lp

    paul_4lp Road Train Member

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    Oops I may or may not be guilty of this said infraction
     
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  7. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    I would log it, just because what's the harm? Since you're leasing it to a carrier, you may not technically be required to log it. As an Independent, any truck movement that advances the interest of the carrier should be logged (or at least that is my understanding).

    As for fuel, you'll need to walk in and prepay if you want to buy more than ~$75 worth at a time (though at some stations you may find an intercom system where they can turn the pump on).

    Before getting my NASTC fuel card, I used a debit card when diesel cost less debit vs credit. Otherwise I used a 3% rewards credit card.
     
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  8. ReeferOhio

    ReeferOhio Medium Load Member

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    Did you attend at MATS? You and I where in the same class. I just received my card using it first thing in the morning! Great thread by the way!
     
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  9. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Yep, I was at MATS (sat in the back row; asked "the world's 2nd best salesman" whether NASTC insurance was rated by AM Best)
     
  10. rocknroll81

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    Thanks for your time with your thread and info.
     
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  11. dannythetrucker

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    Coincidentally, I was put OOS bringing my glider home. One for no lettering, cop said at minimum I needed company name and DOT # on piece of paper in the window. Second one for no logbook. I am going to look into it. The interesting wording is in FMCSA reg part 393.1a

    Only motor vehicles (as defined in § 390.5) and combinations of motor vehicles which meet the definition of a commercial motor vehicle are subject to the requirements of this part.

    And how a commercial motor vehicle is described in § 390.5 is

    Commercial motor vehicle means any self-propelled or towed motor vehicle used on a highway in interstate commerce to transport passengers or property when the vehicle—
    (1) Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating, or gross vehicle weight or gross combination weight, of 4,536 kg (10,001 pounds) or more, whichever is greater; or etc...

    So basically, if it is a commercial vehicle then the lettering and log book reg's apply. If it's not a commercial vehicle then I didn't have to letter or have my logbook with me.

    I think I can argue it's not a commercial vehicle until I put my letters on it and haul a load. At this point it was just another vehicle, just a big one. I did have insurance, and I did have an IA "in transit" certificate serving as a plate.

    I think I got them, how the heck can it be a "commercial vehicle" when I didn't even have it registered in my name yet ? How can it be a "commercial vehicle" when I didn't even have IRP plates on it ?

    But whether I am right or the cop is right it doesn't change the fact that they can give you a very bad day, CYA keep your log book with you and put company name and DOT # on paper, make sure you have the insurance and your hunter's license or in transit permit.

     
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