what is it that you hope to win here? to clarify, you stated that we owe you $2000.00 for wages, $900.00 in penalties, layover pay, $151 in tolls, out of pocket expenses ect... YOU GOT NONE OF THE ABOVE! WE PAID NO PENALTY, NO FINES, NO WAGES OWED. you couldnt proove that to the mediator you cant proove it now. You did get roughly $400.00 from a check that was owed to you from a balance of $1800.00. the rest went to payroll taxes. because you lied to the labor board and told them you were an hour employee, when infact you were a subcontractor. what you did was try to stick me with paying payroll taxes when you originally got paid as a sub-contractor. AT WHAT POINT IS SOME ONE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS LYING CRYBABY? LET IT GO . KICK HIM OFF OF HERE , THIS IS SUPOSED TO BE A CLOSED ISSUE. IF ANYONE WANTS TO VERIFY ANY OF THIS CALL BILL MULLENS AT THE WAGE AND HOUR DIVISION IN DETROIT MICHIGAN. GOD ALLMIGHTY I AM TIRED OF YOUR LIES AND HALF TRUTHS. MAYBE THEY WILL JUST KICK BOTH OF US OUT OF HERE. just get back to picking up the garbage and move on. until that happens i will always defend and refute any lie or half truth you may tell.
p.s. thank you for the additional search engines out there. because of you i have more business and i have also signed on 2 more trucks as a result of the increase in business. DRD.
DRD Motorsports Inc. - Mt Clemens, Mi.
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How was he suppose to be a subcontractor? You owned the truck didn't you?
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I DID NOT get the $2000.00 wages that YOU DID NOT pay because YOU told the DLEG that you HAD NO IDEA how much money you were paid on the last three loads I did for you. What kind of business do you run that you don't know what any particular load pays? Either you are incredibly stupid or you are a compulsive liar.
Do you remember what you "OFFERED" to pay me (March 14, 2006)?
You "offered" me; Minimum wage, because YOU told the Hearing Mediator; THAT was all truckdrivers were paid, and that was all they were WORTH!
I DID NOT get the "layover pay" (you promised) and the $151 dollars in tolls and other "re-imbursables" because according to Michigan State law, YOU have to allow those payments in an employment contract (or in an employee handbook). Since there was NO "Contract" between employer and employee, I could not collect. But I ask you this; what kind of employer will NOT re-imburse legitimate expenses?
So you are correct there, I DID NOT collect the $2000, the $151 or other monies I STILL claim you owe. I have NEVER claimed in this forum; nor anywhere else, that you DID pay it.
I also NEVER stated that you "paid" me $900.00 in penalties. That is what the State ORDERED you to pay THEM. If you don't pay it, it is none of my concern. I could care less.
Therefore the point of THAT arguement is MOOT.
Which is EXACTLY what I said from the begining. I even POSTED a copy of the check and EXPLAINED exactly this....so again; your point is MOOT.
I didn't LIE, because I NEVER told the State I was an "employee". The State of Michigan used State Laws as well as Federal Laws to determine that I was an employee (But, NO ONE has ever stated I was an "hourly employee")
The way The Michigan DLEG determined this; is I had to answer certain questions, which YOU answered as well:
Q. Does the 'employer' or 'employee' provide the truck and all the tools necessary to perform the job
A. The employer provides the truck and all the tools necessary for the 'employee' to perform the job. The 'employee. does not.
Q. Does the 'employer' direct the 'employee' where to work?
A. Yes, the 'employer' directs the 'employee' where to work. (You told me WHERE to pick-up each boat and where to deliver it)
Q. Does the 'employer' direct the 'employee' what to "do"
A. Yes, the employer directed the employee "what to do". (You told me WHAT BOAT to deliver, told me HOW you wanted the boats loaded, in which order ect, and directed me in which order you wanted then delivered.)
Q. Does the 'employer' regulate the hours the 'employee' must work?
A. Yes, the 'employer' regulates the hours the employee must work.
THOSE are the Questions that determine the relationship between the 'employer' and 'employee'. If those questions are answered as above, then there IS an "Employer/Employee" relationship, according to US and Michigan Labor Laws. Anyone who has worked as an employee, or anyone who has HIRED an employee knows this to be true. If there is any doubt, they can look this information up on the IRS website. Perhaps YOU should look it up as well.
No one said it was a "closed" issue, and the more you come in here, the "smarter" you appear to be. Only someone who is intellectually dishonest can look at everything I have posted, compare it with what you have posted and believe your story.
As I have stated to you time after time, if I am LYING, then SUE ME. It is That Simple. But we all know that you wont. And we all know why as well.
You would wish that "they will just kick both of us out of here". That would suit you just fine. It would prevent people from finding out that you are exactly the person I have described, and you are just as described by two of your own customers.
Yes, I will go back to "picking up garbage".....as if what I am doing is DISHONEST or UNWORTHY of honor.
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<RANT>What you so callously call "GARBAGE" is what is left over from GOOD FOLKS LIVES.
It is their furniture, their clothing, their tools, toys and TVs.
It is their cherished family photos, and the silly pictures they took years ago.
It is the valuable framed artwork and the gauche "Velvet" paintings.
It is their FAMILY HEIRLOOMS and their worthless attic clutter.
It is their gold, silver and worthless 'stainless ware'.
The stuff you call "GARBAGE" is the cast aside lives of tens of thousands of good, decent and honorable people.
Your attempt to portray me as stupid or worthy of rebuke by your statement;only paints YOU with your insensitivity and stupidity</RANT>
I sacrificed to come down here to the Gulf Coast to help these good people out. What (if anything) have you ever sacrificed for anyone?
Besides, I make MORE money every week than you ever paid, and far more than you stole from me.
Search Engines???
I could care if you have "added" 2 more trucks. I do know that by far the best advertisment is WORD of MOUTH, and eventually, word will get around far and fast enough.
You always know someone is losing an argument; when they resort to ad-hominym attacks and non-sequiters.
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You might want to rethink this policy, before it does bite you on the hiney. He WAS your employee. Sub-contracting, as was apparently the arrangement you made with him, is not legal, per the Internal Revenue Service. Many small companies, which are well known to utilize this arrangement, have been hit with back payroll taxes, penalties and interest, and more.
An Independent Contractor must realize some measure of profit or loss, be at their own behest to choose the work they perform, and decline the same. Simply declaring them a sub-contractor, when all aspects of their job are controlled by you, doesn't cut it.
You owned the equipment he drove. You dispatched him. His pay came directly from you. He was your employee.
AT WHAT POINT IS SOME ONE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS LYING CRYBABY? LET IT GO . KICK HIM OFF OF HERE , THIS IS SUPOSED TO BE A CLOSED ISSUE. IF ANYONE WANTS TO VERIFY ANY OF THIS CALL BILL MULLENS AT THE WAGE AND HOUR DIVISION IN DETROIT MICHIGAN. GOD ALLMIGHTY I AM TIRED OF YOUR LIES AND HALF TRUTHS. MAYBE THEY WILL JUST KICK BOTH OF US OUT OF HERE. just get back to picking up the garbage and move on. until that happens i will always defend and refute any lie or half truth you may tell.
p.s. thank you for the additional search engines out there. because of you i have more business and i have also signed on 2 more trucks as a result of the increase in business. DRD.[/QUOTE]
I agree. He needs to move on with his life, because it is a closed issue. What has happened has happened. And now that you have responded, this thread will now be closed.
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