The company I work for (in the office) is a dealership that is a driveaway/towaway operation. We are mostly exempt from the ELD mandate with the exception of our 3 IFTA vehicles that are required to have ELDs.
I am working on filing for an exemption for our 3 IFTA vehicles and need some guidance. The research I am focusing on is centered around how it would just as safe for us to run paper logs as the ELD's in those CMVs. It is getting a bit messy paperwork wise when our guys have to bounce back and forth.
Anyone have any constructive information on this or can point me in the correct direction?
ELD and paper log combination
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by deathB4decaf, Aug 3, 2018.
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KeepTruckin App: Electronic Log Book Mode. Case Closed.
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We have the VDO Roadlog and it works great. Just gets messy when attempting to combine my paper and electronic records. Most of our guys don't have smart phones so we went with something basic. -
I hate JJ-Keller pen & paper logs. Too much chicken-scratch writing (Aint nobody got time for that!!!)
Solution? Use KeepTruckin app, in non-eld mode (aka "electronic log book app")
By doing that, I get a tool that alerts me to potential violations, plus, when printed (truck has wireless printer), it looks cleaner than JJ-Keller chicken-scratched paper-log.deathB4decaf Thanks this. -
The issue is the app would mean they would all have to be provided with smart phones. (Boss doesn't want to do that because of initial cost and monthly fees.)
I've talked to them about getting at least one pre-2000 truck to just automatically be exempt in that vehicle. They guys don't mind their paper-logs. Maybe it is because it is familiar and they're use to using them. -
The easy solution is an app, even if it costs money to put a tablet in each vehicle. If they’re doing paper in some vehicles and eld in the others do they have to edit the eld to match their paper logs?
Honestly if the FMCSA were handing out exemptions based on the eld being a hassle I imagine every one out there who doesn’t like them would be trying to get an exemption.
I don’t know your operation but is it worth looking at doing away with one segment or the other? Keep the non-eld vehicles and hire out the work the eld ones do now? Or vise versa. -
You don’t have to buy them each a smart phone. Buy tablets one for each truck that stays in truck. You can get android tablets for around $50.
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You should not be allowed an exemption, you have a three truck driveaway service which is not hard to manage at all even with a mix of ELD and Paper. -
In all fairness, I think whether or not we should be allowed the exemption should be judged on the FMCSA. -
They do not edit logs at all. We have had 1 incident since we started and that was handled. I get that you all don't see an issue, that's fine. I'm not going into full detail because it is a lot to list and I genuinely was looking for guidance. If you all don't feel it is something we deserve, no worries. The FMCSA will turn down my request and I will be better at my job with the research I will be doing.
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If you are having that much trouble, get an ELD with a dongle that plugs into the diag port of the truck. Have the drivers use that even on the exempt drive away trucks Nice and convenient, and everything goes through the same system.
Remember, it's an exemption for the driveaway operation. Nothing says an ELD cannot be used....not4hire and deathB4decaf Thank this.
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