ELD required in Not for Hire operation?

ELDs are for commercial operations, not private. My best advice is to contact the Highway Patrol or State Police and talk to someone in the Commercial Enforcement Division. They're the people who write the tickets so they will give it to you straight.

 

Look at GVWR for truck and trailer. If over 26,000 lbs yes on CDL. Yes on ELD if u go farther than 150 miles from home.

 

If there is any possibility of prize money for those shows, it is a commercial move. Dot doesn't care if you make money, only that you are trying to...
Not for hire doesn't play into it though.

You might qualify for some exemptions if you are hauling a traiiler rated over 10k, or a vehicle over 10k. The 26k mentioned above only applies if a cdl is needed. Need to log and medical card at 10,001 pounds.

 

If she isn't required to log her day more than 8 times in any 30 day period, then she's exempt. How often do they go to shows, and how many travel days are there? Log the day(s) traveling to and from the event. Days spent AT the event she's starting and stopping at the same location, so it's no different than back home...keep a record of your hours worked, and those days do not count against your 8-in-30 exemption from the ELD.

In theory, if every event she attends is within a day's drive (11 driving hours in a 14 hour day), she could drive to shows 4 out of every 5 weeks and keep her exempt status under the 8-days-in-30 exemption.

 

Right on the money. Motor carrier enforcement in Chicago told me NOT FOR HIRE means absolutely nothing.

 

AHC Meets with Department of Transportation and FMCSA

Allegedly sometime this week the DOT will be putting up a website regarding transporting horses to events and the applicability of the fmcsa regs while doing so.

 

Hauling your own horses is not interstate commerce.
And no eld should be needed. Is my thoughts.
Although Utah states any truck pulling a trailer must be a cdl issued driver at the wheel.

 

Yes, you need a CDL if GVWR is 26,000 lbs or more. Not for hire transporting of one's own product in their own vehicles, and how far the vehicle travels also is taken into consideration. Most trucks (pick-ups) that pull trailers for work are registered under commercial plates, and registration. If your wife is conducting a business or makes money in any manner for transporting such animals, Than yes you are considered as a commercial vehicle, and D.O.T rules and Regulations apply. Thus, you cannot be a not for hire carrier.
I have a fleet of trucks, and trailers. I haul my own freight with my own trucks. I am registered as a not-for-hire vehicles, I also do not need a log book even though my freight goes beyond the 150 air miles radius per D.O.T rules. My ranch also has Bulls that compete in the PBR, and we sponsor some of the riders. They pull our bulls in custom livestock trailers and F-550 pick up trucks. They are not required to log, have ELD, and due to not for hire status. Best to check with your local DMV, or DPS commercial division for the proper answers.

 

One other thing to consider is if it is a college team, and the truck and trailer being used are owned by the state, then a different set of rules might apply. Often times, trucks owned by municipalities and state agencies are exempt from most (if not all) of the regulations. Saw a news report a while back about a city's fleet of garbage trucks and how none of them would pass a roadside DOT inspection, but because the city owns and operates the trucks the DOT can't touch them.