Eliminate the FMCSA ELD mandate

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Alex1990, Sep 25, 2017.

  1. slow.rider

    slow.rider Road Train Member

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    One advantage of the new law is at least they'll start making devices using modern hardware, now that they have to sell devices directly to drivers, instead of using leftover 1970s computer chips and vacuum tubes that take 10 minutes to warm up, which they could get away with when it was just one giant company selling to another giant company, neither of which gave a carp about wasting a driver's life.
     
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  3. stayinback

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    it Won't Make a difference.
    any "Illusion" that may wander through our heads is just a cover up to make everyone Think it'll be a game changing ordeal,It Won't For Shippers/receivers- Business as usual.

    what It Will Hurt is Us......

    there's going to be a lot of..............

    1. "Man, I have to wait until tomorrow now to deliver this..Its Messing up my week" Throw in a few cuss words
    2."I'm not stopping 2 hours from home because I'm out of hours"
    3. "My Log didn't allow me to make my apt" "Well,You'll have to reschedule for another day" I Can't afford to wait until tomorrow to deliver" "Who said tomorrow- We don't have any openings until Thursday" driver explodes and pulls out Shotgun
    4. Customer calling broker/carrier's office looking for delivery- "Where's the driver at?" "I don't know,Let me call him" Broker to Driver- "Customer is wanting to know where your at"- Driver"For Chrissakes,Leave me alone.This E-log isn't allowing me to service this customer like I Want"



    You Folks think Im Joking here...You wait and See What the added stress of this E-log is going to do to the driver- Won't effect nobody else,Except the pockets of Freight Brokers charging Late Fees.

    which of course is never in Discussion- Just keep being Sheep
     
  4. Ridgeline

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    Sorry but I'm with nax on this one, I see profit already, not a hindrance of any kind because the drivers tell the dispatchers/brokers/agents the way it is and if they don't like it - too bad.

    I differ from nax because the only way I can see shippers and carriers actually change anything is with the lack of easy to get cheap trucks, and this is where those who can't handle working under a different form of logging will be out of the industry and more demand for trucks which means we can start seeing serious increases in rates like where they should be - $2.50 at the bottom, not 98 cents.
     
  5. Port Man

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    As an intermodal O/O who gets stuck in the ports daily, I just wish the 14 hour rule was increased to 16. It would make the mandate more palatable.
     
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  7. MrEd

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    I'm not against nax at all. I hope he is right. Rates need to come up for a myriad number of reasons. But anyone who knows me knows I'm a terrible pessimist. And I have a hard time finding any positive outcome from government. Even by accident, they never seem to do us any real good any more.
     
  8. Derailed

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    Or just go back to the way it use to be where you could break the clock. Thats my real beef with them
     
  9. MrEd

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    Stayinback, I think you were a bit harsh with uturngirl on that post. I do not believe she was advocating for or in support of Onguard. She was simply saying that's what the FMCSA will be after next. Or speed limiters. I certainly do not believe our wonderfully bloated beaurocratic government is done with ELD's. And she is right that our modern business culture does seem to consider government mandates to be part of their business model. Go read up on the NAIS program as it was originally envisioned by the Dept of Agriculture. Was a mandate to sell farmers and ranchers millions of RFID tags, because the RFID manufacturers can't sell enough to make them happy on the products merits. It was all under the guise of "safer food supply" but wouldn't have made a bit of difference as far as that is concerned. Every different "alphabet soup" beaurocracy in government has to justify their existence. They also love feeling important while being the center of attention to all the deep pocket lobbyist. Uturngirl recognizes that, and her comment on it does not mean she supports or embraces it.
     
  10. stayinback

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    your Right, I May have been a little Hard on her, But it came across to me that its Fun n games awaiting a next Rule.

    I'm Personally Disgusted and Sick of the way Folks Don't Stand up for anything anymore.

    As For the Farmers--Ha- and Where did that go?

    I Can only do so much myself- I QUESTION things if they don't make sense
    I operate within common Sense
    I Make myself Visible in all aspects of transportation-

    If I Feel a Customer or Brokerage is Playing around- I Let them Know about it.
    If I Feel My Insurance company adjusts my premium Without Sensible reasoning- They'll get an earful
    If I See careless driving on the Road- I'll walk up to you and Pull you by the earlobe like a misbehaving child and explain why you "Don't do that"
    If my Kids were misbehaving growing up- Me or My Wife would Wear the Rear Ends out like there was No Tomorrow- I Have The Greatest Children that are grown now a person could ask for
    5. Basically,If Things don't make "Common sense" I say something... but there aren't enough in this society anymore That do this. Therefore, Groups like the FMCSA ATA Special interest groups and insurance companies dictate what they want.
     
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  11. UturnGirl

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    Yeah. What Mr. Ed said. I don't support any of that crap. I also know we don't have the same kind of resources, as do some noisy groups, to hire paid protesters nor to overwhelm our representatives with lobbyists. I am a lifetime OOIDA member and they are putting up a good fight but it is an uphill battle.
     
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