Erratic cooling

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  1. bigguns

    bigguns Road Train Member

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    93 S60 12.7 During cool weather the radiator keeps up with cooling the engine. Now at 85 degrees ambient temperature the radiator won't keep the engine cool without running the fan all the time. I have run a cleaner through the cooling system. It seems to have helped a little. When the engine is wanting to run warm, taking my foot out of it and rolling down hill the temp. won't drop as quickly as it should. Late in the day Monday evening the temp. went right back to climbing slowly while going up hill and dropping quickly after topping a hill. Long story short, sometimes the cooling system is very effective and some times it won't get the job done. After this all started I changed the water pump and then the thermostats. The old stats I put on the stove tonight and they seem to be working fine. It is as if something is slowly the flow of coolant at times. I checked the radiator and it was 180 at the top and 144 at the bottom with the fan on. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  3. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I would try separating the A/C condensor, the radiator and air cooler. Then blow them out one at a time. Separating them is the only way to get them clear.
     
  4. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

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    Then maybe thank about any air getting in the cooling system.
     
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  5. lwlevens

    lwlevens Medium Load Member

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    Maybe air pockets in the rad.
     
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  6. spsauerland

    spsauerland Road Train Member

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    Is pushing any coolant out the overflow?
     
  7. bigguns

    bigguns Road Train Member

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    I disassembled the cooling package a while back. When I got it clean I put a screen in front. Too dang many bugs, love bugs and cotton seed dust down here. I did quit the cotton seed hauling though.

    Not pushing coolant.

    How would air get in the cooling system.? No air controlled heater valves.

    I can watch the temp. gauge and see the stats open and close by the temperature changes. Other times not so much.

    This has been going on for some time w/o any other issues.
     
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  8. lwlevens

    lwlevens Medium Load Member

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    Maybe air from draining the rad when you replaced the water pump and or thermostats.
     
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  9. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

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    Heater valves was my first thought. While it would be rare an air compressor or engine compression problem. Water cooled turbos any more?
    I read a TSB on Cummins engines one time. Put a clear hose between a water port of the top of the head and the other end on the water pump inlet side. It should not have air bubbles in the hose. Air causes cavatation in the water pump and it will not work properly. I do not recall if it was a Cummins TSB or one for a major company I worked for. Can not find it and that is the best I recall. I would want to do the same test on another truck before I condemed it. Just sharing the idea.
    There was one of those running through here form out of state. I checked everything I know to check. Everything was good even run up the road with a bottle test. If he left, unloaded, and returned an hour later it would be a gallon low. He hauled from about four hours away and this went on for several weeks. He carried water as it was required to make the trip.
    Later he said it had liner seat problems.That is what he was told but would the shop the did not do it correctly the first time tell the truth?
     
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    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

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    Most all systems have air vent lines anymore but check that out. Are any stopped up?
     
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    bigguns Road Train Member

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    Senior moment last night. The air compressor as a way of getting air into the cooling system. It hit me at 3am this morning.

    This morning: 54 degrees outside and I could watch the stats opening and closing. Loading now so I shall see what happens.

    The vent line has been checked and it is running coolant through it ok.
     
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